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shyness, sink or swim in korea
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shyness can indeed be a problem here but not so much as a detriment to your teaching. Many hagwons would rather take an extroverted clown who made a lot of noise and got the kids laughing than someone who knew a lot about how to teach but was rather soft or quiet.

You're friend might be better off at a PS where they don't care as much.
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GreatUnderachiever



Joined: 08 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Julius" Celta is one of the top rated esl qualifications. Certainly given that it is only 1 or 3 months of study, then it is reasonable to expect everyone coming to Korea to pass it as a requirement.
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From what I know of the CELTA, I think it's more geared towards adults though? Perhaps not the most necessary/relevant qualifcation for someone teaching just kids.
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FaceFaceFace



Joined: 12 Jun 2011
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think being shy is ok for working here, but you also need a thick skin, or the ability to grow one.

I'm pretty shy and not the outgoing, "funny teacher" type that Korea seems to love.

I remember my first class vividly. One student chanted "Pinocchio" the entire lesson because my nose was soooooo huge. I didn't know how to respond to this.

Kids will say and do anything and everything. Be prepared for all sorts of weird and wonderful comments to be thrown your way.
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thunderbird



Joined: 18 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh its not a job for shy peeps but sometimes peeps *beep* shy round adults arent round kids. can ur bud make a fool of himself? thats all it takes
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soomin



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful about being shy... Some bosses expect a sunshine-and-rainbows-all-the-time teacher and will get mad if you aren't bouncing off the walls at all times, even at teachers' meetings...

With nice coworkers and friendly kids, your friend could come out of their shell... but if they have a real social anxiety towards public speaking or new cultures... I'd say, no.
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've seen over here the teachers who are really shy or introverted don't seem to have many issues with the teaching, it's the fitting in that they struggle with.

After a couple of weeks of teaching they become comfortable in the classroom, but outside of work they struggle to make friends or go out and explore. They sit at home and Skype with family and friends every night and lock themselves in on the weekend. Eventually they become so lonely and homesick they bail and head home.

Of course this isn't all or even a majority of introverts (I consider myself introverted and I'm doing fine) but I think they have a more difficult time adjusting to a new culture/environment.

Just my opinion.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hokie21 wrote:
From what I've seen over here the teachers who are really shy or introverted don't seem to have many issues with the teaching, it's the fitting in that they struggle with.

After a couple of weeks of teaching they become comfortable in the classroom, but outside of work they struggle to make friends or go out and explore. They sit at home and Skype with family and friends every night and lock themselves in on the weekend. Eventually they become so lonely and homesick they bail and head home.

Of course this isn't all or even a majority of introverts (I consider myself introverted and I'm doing fine) but I think they have a more difficult time adjusting to a new culture/environment.

Just my opinion.


The biggest problem is that the vast majority of English teachers are extreme extroverts (many have never heard of "Dave's ESL Cafe").

The last two times I worked with foreigners, I couldn't get over how little time they spent at home. They'd drink five nights a week and three-four of them would be in a night club. They couldn't do anything alone and would whine about being bored of they had to be quiet for more than ten minutes.

Not to fault them, it's just hard to meet English teachers that aren't uber socialites.
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soomin



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

myenglishisno wrote:
Hokie21 wrote:
From what I've seen over here the teachers who are really shy or introverted don't seem to have many issues with the teaching, it's the fitting in that they struggle with.

After a couple of weeks of teaching they become comfortable in the classroom, but outside of work they struggle to make friends or go out and explore. They sit at home and Skype with family and friends every night and lock themselves in on the weekend. Eventually they become so lonely and homesick they bail and head home.

Of course this isn't all or even a majority of introverts (I consider myself introverted and I'm doing fine) but I think they have a more difficult time adjusting to a new culture/environment.

Just my opinion.




The biggest problem is that the vast majority of English teachers are extreme extroverts (many have never heard of "Dave's ESL Cafe").

The last two times I worked with foreigners, I couldn't get over how little time they spent at home. They'd drink five nights a week and three-four of them would be in a night club. They couldn't do anything alone and would whine about being bored of they had to be quiet for more than ten minutes.

Not to fault them, it's just hard to meet English teachers that aren't uber socialites.


AMEN! I don't drink and usually only meet other foreigners who are drunk or hungover... Be my friend~~~ LOL
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justpale



Joined: 29 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmillika wrote:
It's surprising how easy it is to 'turn off' your mind to feelings of shyness etc. once you get up in front of the room.


It's also easy to "turn on". I used to be a very shy person and I'm still introverted. When I went college, I decided I wanted to be outgoing. For a while, I would go though this mental exercise while I was getting ready for the day that I was girding myself for battle. Or if I was going from one group of people to another, I would mentally put on a mask. Did a lot of faking it until I made it.

I know you're not necessarily asking for tips on how your friend can overcome her shyness, but it shouldn't keep her from trying. Now that I'm teaching, I don't care whether I look ridiculous. I'd rather look ridiculous and have the students learn than look cool and be an ineffective teacher.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soomin wrote:
myenglishisno wrote:
Hokie21 wrote:
From what I've seen over here the teachers who are really shy or introverted don't seem to have many issues with the teaching, it's the fitting in that they struggle with.

After a couple of weeks of teaching they become comfortable in the classroom, but outside of work they struggle to make friends or go out and explore. They sit at home and Skype with family and friends every night and lock themselves in on the weekend. Eventually they become so lonely and homesick they bail and head home.

Of course this isn't all or even a majority of introverts (I consider myself introverted and I'm doing fine) but I think they have a more difficult time adjusting to a new culture/environment.

Just my opinion.




The biggest problem is that the vast majority of English teachers are extreme extroverts (many have never heard of "Dave's ESL Cafe").

The last two times I worked with foreigners, I couldn't get over how little time they spent at home. They'd drink five nights a week and three-four of them would be in a night club. They couldn't do anything alone and would whine about being bored of they had to be quiet for more than ten minutes.

Not to fault them, it's just hard to meet English teachers that aren't uber socialites.


AMEN! I don't drink and usually only meet other foreigners who are drunk or hungover... Be my friend~~~ LOL


Heh, I don't drink either and those three words ("I don't drink") are social suicide amongst foreigners here. For the better I suppose, I'll just focus all my energies elsewhere.

People that spend all their free time getting plastered usually aren't worth investing time in, anyway.
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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

myenglishisno wrote:
People that spend all their free time getting plastered usually aren't worth investing time in, anyway.



strange that. i have a strong suspicion those people feel the same about people like you who don't drink and judge them for drinking. but of course you've probably never thought of it that way or probably feel that it's a-okay if others find you boring or a prude.
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Andromeda



Joined: 09 Feb 2012
Location: Woodstock, GA

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personality traits are sometimes adjustable; it can simply be a matter of role playing. You may be an introvert; there is absolutly nothing wrong with that. However, when you go to perform a job (and it is a performance), you begin to assume a role. For me, as an introvert, it simply means I play the part. My feelings of shyness, for some strange reason, begin to transform as I behave in way that is different from my norm. I just remind myself that I am acting, I then feel a great deal more comfortable.
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