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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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 Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:21 am Post subject: Public school late on my salary |
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I know thee are a few threads on this, but I was wondering if this is more common with schools funded by the local city hall. I work for a GEPIK school in Bucheon.
I just started the contract (got my ARC today) and this is only the first paycheck. I was told today (payday) that city hall was late in providing the budget for this year and that I would get paid next Thursday (almost a week late). Apparently, a few other Korean teachers at my school are in the same boat as me. So, they aren't just picking on me.
Anyway, maybe it'll be alright, but just wanted to post this to see what you guys thought. The other threads said to call the POE, but they aren't funding my school (or maybe because of GEPIK's transition, the POE will be funding the school and that's the holdup?).
If the money isn't there Thursday, who should I contact? City Hall? Should I demand to be paid on Monday?
Thanks, in advance. |
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young_clinton
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't make any demands whatsoever. They won't be able to meet your demands and your demands might change thier opinions of you in a negative way. Anyway they can't pay you until city hall coughs up the money. If you run out of money, or are in need of money you might ask for an advance of some money out of the paycheck. Although it's not really an advance, it might be a good way to put it forward to the school. |
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YTMND
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Give it 2 weeks, then pick the busiest day and don't come in. That could be one sick day, but they still have to pay you.
Cha cha cha, see you in 2 weeks  |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| I wouldn't make any demands whatsoever. They won't be able to meet your demands and your demands might change thier opinions of you in a negative way. Anyway they can't pay you until city hall coughs up the money. If you run out of money, or are in need of money you might ask for an advance of some money out of the paycheck. Although it's not really an advance, it might be a good way to put it forward to the school. |
Kinda what I figured. Thanks. Can't draw water from a stone. And no point getting on the school's case about it if it really was city hall's doing. It is the beginning of the school year and with Korea's organizational skills, no one ever seems to be ready for it.
But I'm also wondering about what recourse I have if this becomes a trend. Or if the money doesn't show up Thursday. Other threads mentioned going to the POE (for schools funded by them) if their school is paying them late. Is there similar recourse with schools funded by city hall? |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Give it 2 weeks, then pick the busiest day and don't come in. That could be one sick day, but they still have to pay you.
Cha cha cha, see you in 2 weeks |
 That's a nice idea, but I won't last two weeks with what I've got left in the bank, not without dipping in to what I have left back home. Possible but not preferable. |
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YTMND
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
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Give it 2 weeks, then pick the busiest day and don't come in. That could be one sick day, but they still have to pay you.
Cha cha cha, see you in 2 weeks |
That's a nice idea, but I won't last two weeks with what I've got left in the bank, not without dipping in to what I have left back home. Possible but not preferable. |
That's a completely different issue. You decided to go to the other side of the world (vertically if you are down under mate), and you didn't bring along enough money? Get that credit card out, it should be good for a couple grand. Mine is good for more and I never use it, but I would if I had to. |
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isitts
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Give it 2 weeks, then pick the busiest day and don't come in. That could be one sick day, but they still have to pay you.
Cha cha cha, see you in 2 weeks |
That's a nice idea, but I won't last two weeks with what I've got left in the bank, not without dipping in to what I have left back home. Possible but not preferable. |
That's a completely different issue. You decided to go to the other side of the world (vertically if you are down under mate), and you didn't bring along enough money? Get that credit card out, it should be good for a couple grand. Mine is good for more and I never use it, but I would if I had to. |
Yes, it is a separate issue, so let's not get sidetracked  I did have enough money in my bank accounts that I left open here. This is not my first time working overseas. But I'd anticipated getting paid on time being I'm at a public school, which is the issue at hand. |
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warmachinenkorea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Since this is the first time then it might just be a budget mistake. Since others aren't being paid too. But if it continues to happen then you need to make sure they understand you need to be paid on time. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Public school late on my salary |
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| isitts wrote: |
I know thee are a few threads on this, but I was wondering if this is more common with schools funded by the local city hall. I work for a GEPIK school in Bucheon.
I just started the contract (got my ARC today) and this is only the first paycheck. I was told today (payday) that city hall was late in providing the budget for this year and that I would get paid next Thursday (almost a week late). Apparently, a few other Korean teachers at my school are in the same boat as me. So, they aren't just picking on me.
Anyway, maybe it'll be alright, but just wanted to post this to see what you guys thought. The other threads said to call the POE, but they aren't funding my school (or maybe because of GEPIK's transition, the POE will be funding the school and that's the holdup?).
If the money isn't there Thursday, who should I contact? City Hall? Should I demand to be paid on Monday?
Thanks, in advance. |
Publicly funded government school then there is no fear about not getting paid. Even if city hall screws up the budget (more likely a lazy admin person at your school didn't get the paperwork in) the government is on the hook for it and they aren't likely to close the doors and run away.
That said, labor laws are pretty specific and if they are more than 14 days late you ARE entitled to file a complaint and the matter will be quickly addressed. It (filing a complaint) won't happen more than once (looks really bad for the principal) but it won't make you any friends either.
Personally, I would be patient but if you are in a cash crunch I would make a bit of noise. The principal does have some discretionary funding to make use of.
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young_clinton
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| Since this is the first time then it might just be a budget mistake. Since others aren't being paid too. But if it continues to happen then you need to make sure they understand you need to be paid on time. |
Since the money for the salary comes from the government he will get paid. But paid when the government releases the money into the school budget. The only thing he can do is make sure that he stays afloat. I am pretty sure the school will keep him afloat if he tells them the situation he is in. I wouldn't arrogantly get things straight with the school because it won't work, there is nothing they can do about it, it isn't thier fault and he will give the school a bad impression. |
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matthews_world
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="young_clinton"]I am pretty sure the school will keep him afloat if he tells them the situation he is in[quote]
What can the schools do? The principal only has so much influence and they don't want their jobs jeopardized.
Realize that their are other teachers in the same boat and in other cities as well as these are new policy decisions. Public school teacher unions in Korea are illegal and thus even the regular educator has no power.
Keep us informed. |
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warmachinenkorea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| Since this is the first time then it might just be a budget mistake. Since others aren't being paid too. But if it continues to happen then you need to make sure they understand you need to be paid on time. |
Since the money for the salary comes from the government he will get paid. But paid when the government releases the money into the school budget. The only thing he can do is make sure that he stays afloat. I am pretty sure the school will keep him afloat if he tells them the situation he is in. I wouldn't arrogantly get things straight with the school because it won't work, there is nothing they can do about it, it isn't thier fault and he will give the school a bad impression. |
It shouldn't happen more than once. If he does it the right way then someone will do something about getting him his money.
He shouldn't care about making the school look bad. He should care about doing his job to the best of his ability and they should care about paying him when they said they will.
Somebody didn't do their job and now he's paying for it. That's bull crap and he needs to take steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.
A defeatist attitude will get the OP ran over like roadkill on the highway. I've found that many times here and at home people lie to you and expect you to believe it. They may not be lying, but then again they could be lazy. I've had the later happen more than honesty. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
[ Public school teacher unions in Korea are illegal and thus even the regular educator has no power.
Keep us informed. |
Public school teacher unions are NOT illegal in Korea.
There is already one here.
( From Wiki.)
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The Korean Teachers and Education Workers Union (KTU) (Korean: 전국교직원노동조합) is a labor union of teachers in South Korea. The organization has 77,000 members[1] (down from 94,000) among the 360,000 public and private school teachers in the country.
The KTU was founded in 1989 under opposition from the South Korean government. In response to its founding several thousand members were subsequently fired by the education authorities. The KTU finally received official recognition in 1999 after the election of Kim Dae-Jung and many of the dismissed teachers were allowed to return to their former positions. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks you, guys. It'll be ok. Apparently, the school's last accountant didn't submit a budget proposal in time. Thought this might be it. Anyway, since it is affecting some of the Korean staff (and because, as ttom said, with the government there's no closing doors and running off), I don't need to make a fuss. School was already on top it it today and I should get my pay on Wednesday.
So, looks like it was just a fluke. Thanks, again, for your help! |
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thebektionary
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: |
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I also work at a public school in Bucheon. Where do you work?
I'm new here and need friends, haha. |
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