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AtmaWeapon
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
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 Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:17 am Post subject: Occasional side jobs on an E2 visa LEGALLY |
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I'm not looking for something long-term because I already work from 1:30-8:30 at my hagwon and need my mornings for gym time; just occasional jobs to make some extra cash on the side, preferably on weekends.
Last year I did occasional Saturday work at an English village, which added ~100k/mo to my paychecks. I spent a solid month on this website, craigslist, and worknplay and don't recall seeing any temporary jobs when I was looking for full-time work over the past couple months. My guess is most of these type of things are done by word of mouth, as my EV gig was. Any suggestions?
MODS: the job I mentioned above was done LEGALLY and I am only asking for LEGAL, NON-TUTORING jobs for which I will receive prior consent from my employer. Sheesh. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Check out the HiKorea website. You can do some job on the side but you will be restricted to teaching related and no private teaching. No bartending, no yoga instructing, etc. You will have to teach in a school, hagwon, or life long education place. No going to a cafe or in a student's home.
Besides permission from employer, you will also need permission from Immigration. You have 14 days when you start do the extra to report it to immi. I think some of the stuff can be done online now.
Why not go around your neighborhood and ask the different hagwons if they want extra classes on Saturday. I bet some would love to fiill in some Sat's with a foreign teacher. |
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soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Skippy wrote: |
Check out the HiKorea website. You can do some job on the side but you will be restricted to teaching related and no private teaching. No bartending, no yoga instructing, etc. You will have to teach in a school, hagwon, or life long education place. No going to a cafe or in a student's home.
Besides permission from employer, you will also need permission from Immigration. You have 14 days when you start do the extra to report it to immi. I think some of the stuff can be done online now.
Why not go around your neighborhood and ask the different hagwons if they want extra classes on Saturday. I bet some would love to fiill in some Sat's with a foreign teacher. |
Do you need written permission or some kind of special form from your hagwon to work other jobs? And what does permission from immi entail? Thank you so much!! |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| soomin wrote: |
| Skippy wrote: |
Check out the HiKorea website. You can do some job on the side but you will be restricted to teaching related and no private teaching. No bartending, no yoga instructing, etc. You will have to teach in a school, hagwon, or life long education place. No going to a cafe or in a student's home.
Besides permission from employer, you will also need permission from Immigration. You have 14 days when you start do the extra to report it to immi. I think some of the stuff can be done online now.
Why not go around your neighborhood and ask the different hagwons if they want extra classes on Saturday. I bet some would love to fiill in some Sat's with a foreign teacher. |
Do you need written permission or some kind of special form from your hagwon to work other jobs? And what does permission from immi entail? Thank you so much!! |
Permission can be granted to work ONE other location while on the E2. That other location/job has to meet the standards for a second job (things like hours and pay and where you can work).
Check with Kimmi to get your answers. |
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Rhodesian
Joined: 26 Oct 2011
Location: NZ
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| soomin wrote: |
| Skippy wrote: |
| Check out the HiKorea website. You can do some job on the side but you will be restricted to teaching related and no private teaching. No bartending, no yoga instructing, etc. You will have to teach in a school, hagwon, or life long education place. |
Permission can be granted to work ONE other location while on the E2. That other location/job has to meet the standards for a second job (things like hours and pay and where you can work).
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What about public schools? I notice on a contract sent to me recently it says a contract may be terminated if " the Employee engages in any oyher employment (including p/t,private or self-employment,online instruction or amy continuous profitable work"
I do not have a job in korea but have been sent a sample contract with the above wording. If I get a job I am worried I cannot maintain my blogs which are already established and from which I get the odd check from amazon etc. If I do this on the odd weekend and during my paid vacations would this be considered ok or do I need to talk to the school when I sign my contract? (I would probbaly need the xtra money since the teaching salary is not fantastaic)
would be interested to hear the experience of other teachers! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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(1) What about public schools? I notice on a contract sent to me recently it says a contract may be terminated if " the Employee engages in any oyher employment (including p/t,private or self-employment,online instruction or amy continuous profitable work"
(2)_ I do not have a job in korea but have been sent a sample contract with the above wording. If I get a job I am worried I cannot maintain my blogs which are already established and from which I get the odd check from amazon etc. If I do this on the odd weekend and during my paid vacations would this be considered ok or do I need to talk to the school when I sign my contract? (I would probbaly need the xtra money since the teaching salary is not fantastaic)
would be interested to hear the experience of other teachers! |
I took the liberty of assigning numbers to your paragraphs for greater clarification.
1. Under a public school contract you are NOT allowed to have another job. As a public school teacher you are considered a civil servant and that is in violation of the Civil Service act in Korea. The ONE exception to this is if you work at ANOTHER public school. Period.
2. There was a thread on here ( I think it's since been removed) about another foreign teacher who had a blog that he sometimes got paid for. He got fired for it. I wouldn't risk it. Go for a hakwon if you wish to teach and maintain your blog. |
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Rhodesian
Joined: 26 Oct 2011
Location: NZ
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hi thanks for your take on it,
The thing is its not a"job" at all-more like a hobby. They are pre existing blogs. If you are a teacher in any other school (in the western world at least) I believe what you do in your private vacation time particular;y would be considered private and of no-one else's concern. (I could underatand if one was doing other work during school being in session)
However I will consider a hagwon if that's how legalistic they are! -or perhaps a more broad-minded school system in another country! |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hi thanks for your take on it,
The thing is its not a"job" at all-more like a hobby. They are pre existing blogs. If you are a teacher in any other school (in the western world at least) I believe what you do in your private vacation time particular;y would be considered private and of no-one else's concern. (I could underatand if one was doing other work during school being in session)
However I will consider a hagwon if that's how legalistic they are! -or perhaps a more broad-minded school system in another country! |
What you believe and what the government/employer believes are two different things, and what you think is the low card in this game.
The other guy that TUM is referring to was writing about travel/Korea if I'm not mistaken and he told his co workers about it. Blogging and getting paid for it is illegal, at least according to what happened to this fellow, but as long as you keep your mouth shut about it and don't have your name on it/put photos of things that could link it to you, you should be fine.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, there were other factors at play with the other guy. I don't recall exactly, (nor do I care to take the time to find the thread) but I believe there was more to the whole situation - he wanted to move to another school (he was rocking the boat) and the current school/coordinator weren't to happy (seasick) and they used the blog against him.
So, keep it quiet, keep your name off of it, and don't rock the boat - you should be fine. |
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Rhodesian
Joined: 26 Oct 2011
Location: NZ
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks nathan
That sounds more common sense. The blogs I have are more labours of love than great earners-thye may send a check to me for $50 twice a year and then again most of them earn nothing-and the check is sent home to family not to me . I will probably let any blogs run on autopilot for a while whist I get to grips with how to present the great subject of English to Koreans or Taiwanese or whoever eventually hires.
Bit off topic but I see you are in Morocco. What's that like from a living experience and a teaching experience? I was led to believe that salaries were poor in Africa? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| Rhodesian wrote: |
Hi thanks for your take on it,
The thing is its not a"job" at all-more like a hobby. They are pre existing blogs. If you are a teacher in any other school (in the western world at least) I believe what you do in your private vacation time particular;y would be considered private and of no-one else's concern. (I could underatand if one was doing other work during school being in session)
However I will consider a hagwon if that's how legalistic they are! -or perhaps a more broad-minded school system in another country! |
The things is, your work visa is sponsored by an employer and has restrictions. This visa is the sole reason a person can teach in Korea legally.
When on your free time or on vacation during your year in Korea, you are still under the rules of your visa. So what you do on your own time is private as long as it does not break the rules of your visa.... |
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Rhodesian
Joined: 26 Oct 2011
Location: NZ
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, got that. Thanks for the advice |
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AtmaWeapon
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| I think some people may have been confused by my original post (I'm the OP). I wasn't asking for information regarding the legality of working side jobs, I'm looking for side jobs! Is there any place I should be checking other than Craigslist? |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| AtmaWeapon wrote: |
| I think some people may have been confused by my original post (I'm the OP). I wasn't asking for information regarding the legality of working side jobs, I'm looking for side jobs! Is there any place I should be checking other than Craigslist? |
That's like scalping tickets at a concert. There isn't a universal hub for this stuff. You just have to see what offers recruiters have. Since 90% of E2s don't fall in your category, no hub.
Ok, I am repeating. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| AtmaWeapon wrote: |
| I think some people may have been confused by my original post (I'm the OP). I wasn't asking for information regarding the legality of working side jobs, I'm looking for side jobs! Is there any place I should be checking other than Craigslist? |
Sure,
Some recruiting sites offer tons of part-time work. Work n play used to do that, no idea if they are still in business.
Network..I assume you have a F-visa so that would mean you have been in Korea for more than a year (unless you got here already married and got the F-visa right off the bat). As such, surely you know some people who work in TESL-ESL, you can then certainly get information on possible part-time work.
You could also (again if on a F-visa) register to do some legal private tutoring and that could be your other work. |
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