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Can LSD help people with alcoholic tendencies?

 
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Can LSD help people with alcoholic tendencies? Reply with quote

When I was young, I was working in an environment that was fueled by alcohol 24/7. The guys I worked with were drunk most of the time, and definitely every single night after work.

After about a month, maybe two of hanging with all of them after work every single night - I could feel the onset of something. I wasn't sure if I was falling into a pattern, of if I was just worried about it. About two weeks later, we had a huge festival with 1000's of people - free food and beer, everyone was there and it was a huge party. It was all paid for, transportation included.

I dropped some acid (it was 20 years ago, so I don't really feel all that bad about it anymore) and I had an epiphany. I knew - right there and then that if I didn't stop drinking and hanging out with these people, I would quickly become an alcoholic.

So I turned to acid, just kidding. I've never abused alcohol since then, and this is why I'm posting this thread.

I don't know if it's for real, but I've never forgotten that one day and how much of an impact it had on me to be tripping and watching all these people drunk off their behinds...what was it? No idea, but I can still go out and drink with friends one night and never touch it again for a year - it's just that easy for me.

Maybe it has nothing to do with the acid, but it sure seems like it now that I read this article.


http://psychcentral.com/news/2006/10/09/can-lsd-cure-alcoholism/316.html






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�The LSD somehow gave these people experiences that psychologically took them outside of themselves and allowed them to see their own unhealthy behavior more objectively, and then determine to change it,� said Dyck, who read the researchers� published and private papers and recently interviewed some of the patients involved in the original studies�many of whom had not had a sip of alcohol since their single LSD experience 40 years earlier.
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Dave Chance



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa, had a similar experience back in the day, only it wasn't about alcohol, it was about waking up to our tendency to roll with and be cowed by the crowd.

But dropping a tab can be an extremely powerful and liberating (also has the potential to make u leap offa a building, but there u go, no guarantees in life) experience for any condition, it allows you to see things for what they are...which is a big reason why it's illegal, while alcohol is not
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Fat_Elvis



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found whenever I dropped acid I drank more just to kind of calm me down and smooth out the experience, but maybe that's just me Smile
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jfromtheway



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I will always contend that a revolutionary conscious understanding of human nature and the universe itself, can be greatly influenced by psychedelic drugs. And a person who has refused to squeegee their third eye is often subject, and a byproduct of ignorance.
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FDNY



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too, I used to drink and smoke like crazy on acid. So, I don't know if it will cure your alcohol dependence. I used to smoke dope back in the country and drink a lot less than I do here. But I wouldn't recommend that in Korea.

When I first got to Korea in '96 there was lots of acid around. Lots of other stuff to. Bush changed all that.
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brickabrack



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfromtheway wrote:
Yes, I will always contend that a revolutionary conscious understanding of human nature and the universe itself, can be greatly influenced by psychedelic drugs. And a person who has refused to squeegee their third eye is often subject, and a byproduct of ignorance.


You're full of 'em tonight. Good stuff. Keep it coming.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat_Elvis wrote:
I found whenever I dropped acid I drank more just to kind of calm me down and smooth out the experience, but maybe that's just me Smile


Best thing for a come-down = lots of booze. I am sceptical about these findings.
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re:cursive



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes...in a clinical environment all kinds of meta-programming can be undertaken. In an uncontrolled environment however, the degree to which anyone can achieve a specific goal such as overcoming alcoholism is far more random...you're just as likely to turn to alcohol as you are to turn your back on it.
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Zulethe



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't you get the memo? LSD is no longer around...how do I know this...let's just say I'm in the know. I don't want any agents breaking down my door.

LSD is the only drug that the "War on Drugs" in America ever really targeted. This drug truly scared the American government. They realized that with the right dosage, true mind altering experiences could be achieved.

Mind altering in that the government feared that if too many people began taking the drug as Timothy Leary had intended then there might have been a serious collective consciousness revolt.

I'm really surprised that this thread hasn't already been deleted just from speaking of such a thing.
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Died By Bear



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it hasn't been deleted because it was intended to provoke discussion about the article that was in the OP.

I can't comment on your claims that acid is dead and gone for good, because I don't run in that environment anymore, but I'll take your word for it.

But I also think it's a bit 'tin-hat foiley' to imply (unless I misunderstood) that the feds are watching us and we shouldn't even discuss the drug.

It's just a theory, that's all. And this is a discussion about that theory. Not a bad thing. I'm sure someone will be along to ask where they can score a tab or two at some point. Maybe. Razz
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Zulethe



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I too had a similar experience to yours. I had a transcendental trip. I was 18, just out of high school and had no intention of doing anything other than work at the gas station I was at indefinitely.

A bunch of guys who worked there who were in their 30's were heavily into drugs: mainly cocaine. I dropped acid with them one night and had a great experience. They told me that I had potential and that I should stop working at that gas station and plan for something bigger.

I stopped doing drugs, enrolled in college and just continued to make a better life for myelf all due to that one night.

I strongly believe that it could be used in therapy sessions. There currently are therapists who are using ecstacy in therapy for couples counseling to bring the couples closer together, with some apparent success.
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re:cursive



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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