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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:48 am    Post subject: Shooting in Toulouse Reply with quote

Details are still sketchy, but it looks like they're now looking at Neo-Nazis for the shooting.

Any guesses so far?

I'm guessing one lone guy on a crusade. If it's true that he was filming, perhaps he's looking to send out an eventual message.

Anyone following this more closely?
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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, the shooter is called Mohammed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9157314/Toulouse-shooting-Jihadist-in-siege-is-named-by-police.html
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, self styled member of Al-Qaeda apparently.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming this CBC article is up-to-date, the guy is still holed up in his apartment, and the police are possibly blasting their way in.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over 30 hours now. Seems the guy is willing to grab a little girl by her pigtails and shoot her in the head, but hasn't got the guts to shoot himself. My my, what a remarkable piece of humanity. I hope to f that the police take him alive.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's French Algerian. How come there is no biting commentary about the man's Algerian background and how that influenced his shooting spree? Had the guy been French-Korean, I think this board would be blowing up with people giving their own psycho-analysis.

BTW:

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Officers blew up a vehicle that was blocking access to the area this morning at 8am.



A tow truck can get that car jacked and moved in under 10 minutes. Hell, i've seen tow truck drivers hook up a car and drive away in under 5 minutes.

I find it hard to believe they actually needed to blow the car up because it was in the way.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
He's French Algerian. How come there is no biting commentary about the man's Algerian background and how that influenced his shooting spree? Had the guy been French-Korean, I think this board would be blowing up with people giving their own psycho-analysis..


Since you mention it, I think he's quite an interesting case. Actually a kind of stereotypical Islamic extremist. Ordinary Algerian family, quite poor, petty criminal, a bit of a loser, somewhat unhinged, failed to get into the French military, starts getting drawn into extremist ideas to deal with his general rejection in life, ends up in Afghanistan, still a loser, makes his way back to France and goes nutso after a couple of years.

You mention Korean - I'd say he is basically the Virginia Tech murderer + an ideology.

If some good comes of this, then I hope it will blow the whole mystique of the jihadi martyr wide open and show the world what saddies they are, particularly to the young Muslim community. Hope the French police are very careful not to shoot him dead.

These are just thoughts.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
Over 30 hours now.


Right. And involving 300 police officers.
A botched operation if ever there was one. Why didn't they gas him?

If it takes that amount of resources to take down just one jihadi, then France is going to have a lot of problems.

oh and his brother is "proud" of him and his mommy refused to help police.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the impression that the mother didn't so much as 'refuse', but rather said she had little to do with her son and that he wouldn't listen to her.
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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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then I hope it will blow the whole mystique of the jihadi martyr wide open and show the world what saddies they are, particularly to the young Muslim community


What 'mystique' are you referring to? He's pretty typical of every other wannabe jihadi who has gone before him, and I'm sure there'll be plenty of other inaqequate young Muslim men wanting to follow in his footsteps.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically french muslims could bring the entire country to its knees if even one out of every 100 of them decided to mount a co-ordinated attack?

Precarious existence. Someone has only to give the word.. and France would be overpowered within days.

Latest:
Toulouse shooting: France must not discriminate against Muslims, says Nicolas Sarkozy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/mar/22/toulouse-shootings-muslims-nicolas-sarkozy-video
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:
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then I hope it will blow the whole mystique of the jihadi martyr wide open and show the world what saddies they are, particularly to the young Muslim community


What 'mystique' are you referring to? He's pretty typical of every other wannabe jihadi who has gone before him, and I'm sure there'll be plenty of other inaqequate young Muslim men wanting to follow in his footsteps.


The mistique that attracts people to doing such things, obviously. I wouldn't call him a wannabe Jihadi, I'd just call him a Jihadi, ie a horny young paranoid loser with nothing else going on in his life. Same thing. I think this guy illustrates that more than others have, that was my only point.
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