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New Epik application for Fall 2012 - can't request cities
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JOrgill



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: New Epik application for Fall 2012 - can't request cities Reply with quote

So the new EPIK form has arrived and they've removed the city preferences. Which were far from guaranteed anyway. Instead there's just an urban/rural and a check box for Seoul consideration. I guess its due to a lot of people applying to Seoul / Busan. Anyway, I want to stay in Daegu but change schools (hagwon atm). Any way around this? Like maybe going through the Daegu education office? I guess I could claim I have my own place so I'd stay in the same city but then I'd have to actually organise my own apartment for next year?[/quote]
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Malislamusrex



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a pretty clever way to reduce the number of applications.
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Rutherford



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I want to stay in Daegu but change schools


I'm pretty sure this sort of transfer always goes through the MOE rather than EPIK. Talk to the Daegu MOE about it.
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yfb



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they still asking what elementary school you went to? Rolling Eyes
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Tower of Babel



Joined: 29 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a joke. I was gunning for a rural placement, now even that is completely random. Epik, good day to you, sir. China, here we come.

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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tower of Babel wrote:
What a joke. I was gunning for a rural placement, now even that is comoletely random. Epik, good day to you, sir. Chiba, here we come.


Chiba? Near Tokyo?

Oh, you fixed it. I'd check the forums for that country to make sure the grass actually is greener there.
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Tower of Babel



Joined: 29 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isitts wrote:
Tower of Babel wrote:
What a joke. I was gunning for a rural placement, now even that is comoletely random. Epik, good day to you, sir. Chiba, here we come.


Chiba? Near Tokyo?

Oh, you fixed it. I'd check the forums for that country to make sure the grass actually is greener there.


Yah, it's called a typo. Depressingly common in the age of the touchscreen. I suppose/imagine that you are typing away on a full keyboard in the daytime hours in Korea, and not drunkenly ranting about some bs e-mail you just got at the end of a long night.

In all honesty, I will probably just stay put right here in Amerka for a while. If, as you imply, times are tough everywhere, I might as well stay put and remain in control of my destiny. Unless you got some sweet leads for me in Chiba, Japan, that is...
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isitts wrote:
Tower of Babel wrote:
What a joke. I was gunning for a rural placement, now even that is comoletely random. Epik, good day to you, sir. Chiba, here we come.


Chiba? Near Tokyo?

Oh, you fixed it. I'd check the forums for that country to make sure the grass actually is greener there.


Well there is no grass there, except the spray-on kind. Laughing
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tower of Babel wrote:
isitts wrote:
Tower of Babel wrote:
What a joke. I was gunning for a rural placement, now even that is comoletely random. Epik, good day to you, sir. Chiba, here we come.


Chiba? Near Tokyo?

Oh, you fixed it. I'd check the forums for that country to make sure the grass actually is greener there.


Yah, it's called a typo. Depressingly common in the age of the touchscreen. I suppose/imagine that you are typing away on a full keyboard in the daytime hours in Korea, and not drunkenly ranting about some bs e-mail you just got at the end of a long night.

In all honesty, I will probably just stay put right here in Amerka for a while. If, as you imply, times are tough everywhere, I might as well stay put and remain in control of my destiny. Unless you got some sweet leads for me in Chiba, Japan, that is...


That's fine. I'm not necessarily saying don't go, I'm just suggesting you read the China forum on Dave's international forums. There's a new social security deal you have to pay into and foreigners are apprehensive as to whether or not they'll get that back. And it's a good chunck of your already low salary there.

May be fine, but I'd wait t see how that pans out first.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
isitts wrote:
I'd check the forums for that country to make sure the grass actually is greener there.


Well there is no grass there, except the spray-on kind. Laughing


Laughing It's too bad, really. I've been hemming and hawing about going there for a while now.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: New Epik application for Fall 2012 - can't request citie Reply with quote

JOrgill wrote:
So the new EPIK form has arrived and they've removed the city preferences. Which were far from guaranteed anyway. Instead there's just an urban/rural and a check box for Seoul consideration. I guess its due to a lot of people applying to Seoul / Busan. Anyway, I want to stay in Daegu but change schools (hagwon atm). Any way around this? Like maybe going through the Daegu education office? I guess I could claim I have my own place so I'd stay in the same city but then I'd have to actually organise my own apartment for next year?


Well, urban usually indicates a city. Try getting the placement you want in the JET Program and see if EPIK really is worse. Wink

But I get your point. There's another thread on this board that talks about applying directly to public schools.
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Tower of Babel



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't even consider a program that involved random placement coupled with being responsible for your own housing. Been there, done that, couldn't afford to buy the T-shirt.

With sights set on one not particularly popular province, I was bound to be puzzled and disappointed by this news. However, what particularly chafes is this portion of the e-mail which was sent out:

"Applicants who truly intend to come to Korea to teach and do their best as an educator should ultimately be flexible in terms of their placement."

Aside from the absurdity of this statement, It sounds as if we are being pre-emptively chastised for complaining about this new policy.
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Richardjw84



Joined: 12 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tower of Babel wrote:

"Applicants who truly intend to come to Korea to teach and do their best as an educator should ultimately be flexible in terms of their placement."


That's just bizarre.

I wonder if this could backfire on them, since it could lead to a lot of last minute pull-outs if people get placed somewhere they don't like the look of. Unless they aren't planning on telling people what city they'll be placed in until they've arrived at the orientation?...
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tower of Babel wrote:
I wouldn't even consider a program that involved random placement coupled with being responsible for your own housing. Been there, done that, couldn't afford to buy the T-shirt.

With sights set on one not particularly popular province, I was bound to be puzzled and disappointed by this news. However, what particularly chafes is this portion of the e-mail which was sent out:

"Applicants who truly intend to come to Korea to teach and do their best as an educator should ultimately be flexible in terms of their placement."

Aside from the absurdity of this statement, It sounds as if we are being pre-emptively chastised for complaining about this new policy.


So apply for GEPIK instead. Or see about applying directly for schools under EPIK.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richardjw84 wrote:
Tower of Babel wrote:

"Applicants who truly intend to come to Korea to teach and do their best as an educator should ultimately be flexible in terms of their placement."


That's just bizarre.

I wonder if this could backfire on them, since it could lead to a lot of last minute pull-outs if people get placed somewhere they don't like the look of. Unless they aren't planning on telling people what city they'll be placed in until they've arrived at the orientation?...


Not really. They probably just had too many people back out when they didn't get the location they wanted. So this is their remedy. I doubt they'll have trouble finding applicants.
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