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SK ranked 24th most prosperous country
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this was rather subjective and it is. You can interact with the rankings and ascribe less or more value to each value that makes up the total ranking.
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akcrono



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: SK ranked 24th most prosperous country Reply with quote

motiontodismiss wrote:
Kimchifart wrote:
pegasus64128 wrote:
This one slipped under my radar - seems like an interesting site.

http://www.prosperity.com/country.aspx?id=KR

It's nice vindication for those of you who care that Korea ranks high in education but has it's share of social problems.


Average Life Satisfaction Ranking
104th / 110

LOL.


Koreans could have a GDP per capita of $150k and a 30 hour workweek and every single family in Korea could have a single family house with a white picket fence, and their average life satisfaction ranking would still be 104th/110. They spend too much time caring what other people think instead of living their lives, to hell with people you don't know.


Actually, I feel that the lack of free time in Korea contributes heavily to the lack of satisfaction. If they had 30 hour work weeks, I'd bet a lot of money their happiness would be more in line with other countries.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could name 30 things I want to accomplish, then go out and accomplish all of them and still not be satisfied because I could think of 30 more. Does that mean my life lacks quality and "satisfaction"? As I said that question is very open to differing interpretations.
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motiontodismiss



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: SK ranked 24th most prosperous country Reply with quote

akcrono wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:
Kimchifart wrote:
pegasus64128 wrote:
This one slipped under my radar - seems like an interesting site.

http://www.prosperity.com/country.aspx?id=KR

It's nice vindication for those of you who care that Korea ranks high in education but has it's share of social problems.


Average Life Satisfaction Ranking
104th / 110

LOL.


Koreans could have a GDP per capita of $150k and a 30 hour workweek and every single family in Korea could have a single family house with a white picket fence, and their average life satisfaction ranking would still be 104th/110. They spend too much time caring what other people think instead of living their lives, to hell with people you don't know.


Actually, I feel that the lack of free time in Korea contributes heavily to the lack of satisfaction. If they had 30 hour work weeks, I'd bet a lot of money their happiness would be more in line with other countries.


Actually the lack of free time in Korea contributes heavily to almost EVERY social problem in Korea. Low birth rate, wild teens, nearly dead internal economy, obesity, etc etc etc

30 hour workweeks aren't the problem. It's the morons that think that deskwarming is actually productive.
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Seoulman69



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Low birth rate, wild teens, nearly dead internal economy, obesity, etc etc etc


Are you still referring to Korea? Because last time I looked riots just happened in England and Canada, America was the most obese planet in the world followed by Canada and the UK, Greece and many other European countries economies are up poop creek, and low birth rate is common in many countries.

I agreed with your overall point that Koreans need more leisure time but the examples you gave have no relevance.

If you said that long work hours and the stress of the Korean lifestyle have lead to the high suicide rate I would agree with you. I think most Koreans would too. But wild teens, bad economy and obesity? I'd look closer to home for those problems.
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akcrono



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
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Low birth rate, wild teens, nearly dead internal economy, obesity, etc etc etc


Are you still referring to Korea? Because last time I looked riots just happened in England and Canada, America was the most obese planet in the world followed by Canada and the UK, Greece and many other European countries economies are up poop creek, and low birth rate is common in many countries.

I agreed with your overall point that Koreans need more leisure time but the examples you gave have no relevance.

If you said that long work hours and the stress of the Korean lifestyle have lead to the high suicide rate I would agree with you. I think most Koreans would too. But wild teens, bad economy and obesity? I'd look closer to home for those problems.


Yea. I think the crime rate in Korea is so low in part because of the lack of free time among student, who don't have time to be "wild teens".
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: SK ranked 24th most prosperous country Reply with quote

motiontodismiss wrote:

Actually the lack of free time in Korea contributes heavily to almost EVERY social problem in Korea. Low birth rate, wild teens, nearly dead internal economy, obesity, etc etc etc

30 hour workweeks aren't the problem. It's the morons that think that deskwarming is actually productive.


These social problems are MUCH more prevalent back home than in Korea.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Legatum Prosperity Index 24/110
Average Life Satisfaction Ranking 41/110
Per Capita GDP Ranking 23/110
WEF Global Competitiveness Index 22/139
UN Human Development Index 12/169
Heritage/WSJ Economic Freedom Index 35/179
TI Corruption Perceptions Index 39/178
Vision of Humanity Global Peace Index 50/153


(bolding mine)


Strangely enough when one downloads the PDF in the original link...the average life satisfaction ranking is listed as 41 out of 110 not 104.

Which makes more sense. Korea isn't more miserable than Somalia.
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krnpowr



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Completely subjective. Every agency is going to have a rating that will look very different and have no correlation to other ratings.

Check out the United Nations' ranking for standard of living: http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/

Korea is ranked 15th out of 187 countries.
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IncognitoHFX2



Joined: 15 Mar 2012

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: SK ranked 24th most prosperous country Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:

Actually the lack of free time in Korea contributes heavily to almost EVERY social problem in Korea. Low birth rate, wild teens, nearly dead internal economy, obesity, etc etc etc

30 hour workweeks aren't the problem. It's the morons that think that deskwarming is actually productive.


These social problems are MUCH more prevalent back home than in Korea.


Bureaucracy? Yes.

Spending lives working? No.

The only people that have a meaningful amount of free time in this country are university students and foreigners.

Even when Koreans have days off, they seem to have one obligation after another (hagwons, business drinking, spouse's family etc).
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atwood



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="IncognitoHFX2"]I don't see how the US ranks #1 in terms of health! I have a friend who is stuck here because she can't afford the medicine she needs to survive in the US (yet it costs pennies here) nor can she get insurance to cover it (pre-existing condition).
The health care reform bill addresses this, and while that part has yet to go into effect, the government has set up stop-gap programs in the meantime.

I'm not sure if this variable is meant to include healthcare but if it is, this couldn't be more false. America has the worst access to healthcare in the developed world, not the best as claimed here. Since anyone in the U.S., and that means anyone, must be given medical care if they need it--yes, you have to go the ER--I don't see how access could be the worst.

I'm tempted to disregard the entire website on the basis of this.

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