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fosterman
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
I'm still waiting for the bleeding to stop when all of the blood runs out of the average family in this country and everything comes to a massive crash. My wife and I are still saving at our target amount, for the most part, but we've had to adjust our lifestyle A LOT recently, and now I'm planning to get rid of the car this summer so we can stay on track. |
this is a cycle which has endured for centuries, it will never end. the top 1 % will always suppress the less. that's how the world works, those who are lucky to be born into rich families are just that, Lucky.
the rest of us, well , welcome to the world of the serf.
some move up, but most just barely get by. |
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thomas pars
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Make coffee at your home.
Coffee costs about 25 cents.
The markup is damn near 500% |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| fosterman wrote: |
the top 1 % will always suppress the less.
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These people aren't surpressed they're just stupid if they're buy 5,000 coffee they can't afford.
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I have also sat and watched many businesses that seem to endure despite having no customers. I am convinced that several businesses, who seem to have no patrons EVER, are merely money laundering fronts. There is a shop selling cheap cabinets, shelves, and misc. furniture that is laughably overpriced and I've seen just one couple in there in 7 years.... but it still stays in business. It defies logic.
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I remember this quote from a friend: "A Canadian will borrow money to start a business, a Korean will start a business to borrow money."
Some of them are just methods to qualify for a loan to live on. |
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DIsbell
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| thomas pars wrote: |
Make coffee at your home.
Coffee costs about 25 cents.
The markup is damn near 500% |
This this this. Forgot to mention it. A modestly sized coffee shop can probably cover its expenses by selling 60-75 cups in a day. Another point to remember is that the "arbeit" workers make absolute crap wages... minimum is like, 4,200/hour. They can afford to have 3 kids twiddling their thumbs if each one sells a cup an hour. Labor and supply costs are so low in a coffee shop. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Do part-time workers at coffee shops like Starbucks still need to get checked for STD's on a regular basis in Korea? |
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soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Coffee costs way too much, but if you're going there for the experience of sitting with a friend for a while and catching up, it's not too bad... Just for take-out, though... I don't think so. >.>
My Korean friend works at a Dunkin Donuts and gets... 3,200won an hour? T.T You can't even buy a cup of coffee with that... and no free samples! lol
Again, paying for the experience~~ |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| soomin wrote: |
Coffee costs way too much, but if you're going there for the experience of sitting with a friend for a while and catching up, it's not too bad... Just for take-out, though... I don't think so. >.>
My Korean friend works at a Dunkin Donuts and gets... 3,200won an hour? T.T You can't even buy a cup of coffee with that... and no free samples! lol
Again, paying for the experience~~ |
your friend is being paid youth rate wages?
because if your friend is over 19 then he should be getting paid the legal amount which is set by the government which is minimum 4.100won an hour.
your friend is either getting screwed or something is not right.
In Italy the price of coffee is regulated by the government.
80cents an espresso standing at the bar.
Italians must freak out walking into cafe bene here in Korea.
"CAFE BENE"? emmmm "GOOD CAFE?"
"5000 won a coffee"!!!!?????
ma vaffanculo  |
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soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| fosterman wrote: |
| soomin wrote: |
Coffee costs way too much, but if you're going there for the experience of sitting with a friend for a while and catching up, it's not too bad... Just for take-out, though... I don't think so. >.>
My Korean friend works at a Dunkin Donuts and gets... 3,200won an hour? T.T You can't even buy a cup of coffee with that... and no free samples! lol
Again, paying for the experience~~ |
your friend is being paid youth rate wages?
because if your friend is over 19 then he should be getting paid the legal amount which is set by the government which is minimum 4.100won an hour.
your friend is either getting screwed or something is not right.
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Hmm... she's in university... I thought she was 20, but maybe she is still 19? I just remember asking her 'why do you even go to work for such a small check?' T.T |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| fosterman wrote: |
| soomin wrote: |
My Korean friend works at a Dunkin Donuts and gets... 3,200won an hour?
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he should be getting paid the legal amount which is set by the government which is minimum 4.100won an hour.
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Minimum wage isn't enforced, just like health care is required for E2 holders. |
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soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
Minimum wage isn't enforced, just like health care is required for E2 holders. |
LOL~ yeah... health care would be lovely... unfortunately all I have is life insurance... >.> |
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soulofseoul
Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul
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Whatd more shocking is the low wages the workers get. Something like 4-5k and hour.
Western franchises here be making a killing!! |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Western franchises here be making a killing!! |
I'm sure they do. I wonder, though, how much of the profits go to the Korean partner company, i.e. how much Starbucks earns vs. Shinsegae of Starbucks Korea's profits. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: |
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franchises are killing this country and the people in it.
big business like to think they are creating jobs, but in fact the slave wages
they offer can not be justified, they destroy so many mum and pop stores
pay their workers nothing, and reap all the profits, force realestate prices up
so little guys can't get stores, franchisers offer loans for key money and everything, and what is the government doing about it? NOTHING.
they are all getting their kick backs. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:35 am Post subject: |
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I stopped buying coffee unless it's from a place selling it for 2,000 to 2,500 won. Inflation in Seoul has been horrible, and coffee shops are outrageous. As noted, they want the same for what a full meal costs in some places. That's just nuts.
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Ediya Coffee FTW. Only franchise in all of Korea that has coffee for less than 3k won. Well that and McD's-they have pretty decent coffee  |
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Hugo85
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| Buying a coffee is buying a seat in a store outside from home for a whole day. You are paying for this space, not for the coffee or the employees. |
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