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swinewho
Joined: 17 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:41 pm Post subject: New EPIK self evaluation |
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Enter the average number of standard servings of alcohol consumed weekly.
→Servings of Alcohol: If you tend to drink a serving of alcohol daily (e.g., a glass of wine with dinner), please note this. For example, an appropriate answer would be, �1 glass of wine each night =7~10 servings a week.�
Enter the average number of cigarettes consumed daily.
Indicate your gender in the box provided with an �M� or �F�. Put your height and weight in cm and kg. For reference, 2.20 lbs = 1 kilogram and 2.54 cm = 1 inch.
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I wonder if they're going to start discriminating against over weight/obese people?
If they are that's surely going to affect the US intake this fall!  |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:20 am Post subject: |
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I think Americans will be desensitized enough to lie through their capped teeth. They'll be coming after the Presidential election + Senate + Congress + Guvnor elections afterall. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:38 am Post subject: Re: New EPIK self evaluation |
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swinewho wrote: |
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Enter the average number of standard servings of alcohol consumed weekly.
→Servings of Alcohol: If you tend to drink a serving of alcohol daily (e.g., a glass of wine with dinner), please note this. For example, an appropriate answer would be, �1 glass of wine each night =7~10 servings a week.�
Enter the average number of cigarettes consumed daily.
Indicate your gender in the box provided with an �M� or �F�. Put your height and weight in cm and kg. For reference, 2.20 lbs = 1 kilogram and 2.54 cm = 1 inch.
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I wonder if they're going to start discriminating against over weight/obese people?
If they are that's surely going to affect the US intake this fall!  |
Wow. Glad I didn't get into EPIK. |
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yfb
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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How many people will answer truthfully, I wonder  |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: New EPIK self evaluation |
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isitts wrote: |
swinewho wrote: |
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Enter the average number of standard servings of alcohol consumed weekly.
→Servings of Alcohol: If you tend to drink a serving of alcohol daily (e.g., a glass of wine with dinner), please note this. For example, an appropriate answer would be, �1 glass of wine each night =7~10 servings a week.�
Enter the average number of cigarettes consumed daily.
Indicate your gender in the box provided with an �M� or �F�. Put your height and weight in cm and kg. For reference, 2.20 lbs = 1 kilogram and 2.54 cm = 1 inch.
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I wonder if they're going to start discriminating against over weight/obese people?
If they are that's surely going to affect the US intake this fall!  |
Wow. Glad I didn't get into EPIK. |
This survey is sooo rude. I am glad that I never worked for EPIK too. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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I hope everyone lies. Bunch of a***oles. What bothers me more is they think it is acceptable to ask such questions. Like the butcher shop. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Either this bit from the posting
is on point or the OP needs to provide a link. |
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Ibsen
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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I don't really see the problem with it... The weight and height thing really shouldn't matter, but this is Korea we're talking about... They ask for your pictures beforehand anyway, this just gives them a more accurate assessment.
As for the drinking, you can easily lie as long as you're not a straight up alcoholic and can hide it. And for the smoking, it is an understandable concern since I can imagine some parents will look unfavorably on teachers who smoke which could be bad for their business. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ibsen wrote: |
I don't really see the problem with it... The weight and height thing really shouldn't matter, but this is Korea we're talking about... They ask for your pictures beforehand anyway, this just gives them a more accurate assessment.
As for the drinking, you can easily lie as long as you're not a straight up alcoholic and can hide it. And for the smoking, it is an understandable concern since I can imagine some parents will look unfavorably on teachers who smoke which could be bad for their business. |
Bad for their business? This is EPIK we are discussing which is a PUBLIC school organization...not quite sure how business plays into this. |
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plchron
Joined: 26 Feb 2011 Location: Korea
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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at my Moe, there was an article 2 years ago. In the article, the Moe person is quoted as saying that some people weren't renewed because they were"lazy, sloppy and fat" among other things. |
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goreality
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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I don't find it offensive at all. It's a self health check, most people know there weight, height, average drinking amount and average smoking amount. If you can't answer these questions within a degree of accuracy, you don't deserve a job, you are either being untruthful or you have limited mental capacity. These questions are a good indicator of your overall health before even visiting a doctor.
Remember you are going to be on government health insurance. I wouldn't want to insure someone who is 140cm and 140kg. Easier just to ask than to wait until they come here and say I'm sorry you are too unhealthy.
They should perhaps add waist line to make BMI more accurate, but I suppose people would just complain about that too. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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goreality wrote: |
I don't find it offensive at all. It's a self health check, most people know there weight, height, average drinking amount and average smoking amount. If you can't answer these questions within a degree of accuracy, you don't deserve a job, you are either being untruthful or you have limited mental capacity. These questions are a good indicator of your overall health before even visiting a doctor.
Remember you are going to be on government health insurance. I wouldn't want to insure someone who is 140cm and 140kg. Easier just to ask than to wait until they come here and say I'm sorry you are too unhealthy.
They should perhaps add waist line to make BMI more accurate, but I suppose people would just complain about that too. |
All I know that if these questions were asked of teachers or assistant teachers from China teaching in public schools in the states people would be right up in arms about rude ethno-centric policies.
At my office about half the women would quit if these questions were asked in the states. And the policies are racist if they do not ask the same questions of their Korean colleagues. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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No_hite_pls wrote: |
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At my office about half the women would quit if these questions were asked in the states. They are rude and racist if they do not ask the same questions of their Korean colleagues. |
No they aren't. And here's why.
This is an EPIK questionnaire. Said Korean colleagues do NOT WORK FOR EPIK...they work for the MOE. Your salary is paid for out of the EPIK budget whereas theirs is not. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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^^
There used to be "black" and "white" drinking fountains (or schools).
The black fountain was usually dirtier, but you're saying we can't compare the two? They have different names. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
No_hite_pls wrote: |
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At my office about half the women would quit if these questions were asked in the states. They are rude and racist if they do not ask the same questions of their Korean colleagues. |
No they aren't. And here's why.
This is an EPIK questionnaire. Said Korean colleagues do NOT WORK FOR EPIK...they work for the MOE. Your salary is paid for out of the EPIK budget whereas theirs is not. |
It shouldn't matter.
BTW My salary is not paid by EPIK. I have never worked for EPIK/SMOE/GEPIK and never will. I heard that they put you guys up in some college compound for orientation too. No Thanks! |
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