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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: Line 2 was down this morning |
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At about 9:00am, line #2 shut down, and they said it wouldn't be up for hours.
I was at Gangbyeon station and had to get to Gannam.
What do you figure was the best course of action?
((and then I'll tell what what I actually did...and we can laugh if I'm an idiot)) |
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duke of new york
Joined: 23 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Do you know how long it was down? Traffic seemed abnormally bad today; maybe that was why.
I would have looked for a bus heading in that direction that said "강남" on the side. I would think they pretty much all stop there. Barring that, take a cab. It's not all that far.
I'm assuming you meant Gangnam, right? |
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crisdean
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
At about 9:00am, line #2 shut down, and they said it wouldn't be up for hours.
I was at Gangbyeon station and had to get to Gannam.
What do you figure was the best course of action?
((and then I'll tell what what I actually did...and we can laugh if I'm an idiot)) |
note: I'm assuming you meant Gangnam
Me, personally, I would have taken a bus from Gangbyeon to Jamsil, and then grabbed a bus from Jamsil to Gangnam.
A cab would probably be faster, but I'm a cheap skate. |
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Kimchifart
Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
At about 9:00am, line #2 shut down, and they said it wouldn't be up for hours.
I was at Gangbyeon station and had to get to Gannam.
What do you figure was the best course of action?
((and then I'll tell what what I actually did...and we can laugh if I'm an idiot)) |
I was going to say it may have been a suicide, but then realised I was in Korea and that they would just shovel it up into a bucket and get on with it within fifteen minutes. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, sorry, meant Gangnam.
So, my first plan - catch the bus. Went out of the station to the rows of bus stops, but wasn't able to find any heading towards Jamsil/Gangnam. All of them seemed to be heading out of the city towards Guri, Namyangju, and so on.
Next I figured I'd try for a cab. But the drivers were negotiating with groups and trying to bunch ppl up for various sums. And every few minutes, a new batch of a hundred or so ppl would get off buses, realize the station was done, and start scrambling for cabs.
I then figured if I could walk for a bit, I'd be able to put some distance between me and the larger group. I thought I could grab a taxi before it hit the fray.
So I started walking.
No taxis.
I hit the Han and kept going.
Walked across the river, and made it to Jamsil where...
There were still no cabs. It being line 2, hundreds were walking the streets trying to find a way down the line.
Buses were so full, they'd pass by the stops without opening up their doors. If ppl wanted off, they'd stop 20m away, let them off, and then start driving again before ppl could try to get on.
It was almost comical... If I wasn't so bagged from walking.
It actually made me think of how dependent we are on the public transit system here. And how much things get out of whack when it shuts down.
I'm told that line/part of the line was down for over to hours... Basically, the amount of time it took me to get to work. lol |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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I heard there were two problems. An electricity problem and high winds.
The buses were packed. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Line 2 was working well here in Busan. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
At about 9:00am, line #2 shut down, and they said it wouldn't be up for hours.
I was at Gangbyeon station and had to get to Gannam.
What do you figure was the best course of action?
((and then I'll tell what what I actually did...and we can laugh if I'm an idiot)) |
You were at the station when they made an announcement? Was it in English? Just curious because it has been reported that no information was given in English. Also, the announcements were incomplete regarding the actual problems. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
At about 9:00am, line #2 shut down, and they said it wouldn't be up for hours.
I was at Gangbyeon station and had to get to Gannam.
What do you figure was the best course of action?
((and then I'll tell what what I actually did...and we can laugh if I'm an idiot)) |
You were at the station when they made an announcement? Was it in English? Just curious because it has been reported that no information was given in English. Also, the announcements were incomplete regarding the actual problems. |
For all the effort that they make in making English signs and announcing stops in English, would it kill them to make a couple generic announcements in English that they could use for these situations?
I noticed the last time I was on line 2 where the train sometimes stops service at Seong-su, they actually made an announcement in English this time indicating that it was the end of the line and to disembark. A few years ago, there was no English announcement they just made the Korean announcement and flashed the lights on the train interior.
There are really only a couple announcement we'd really need that they could hit a button and play in English.
We don't really need the full details at the time just:
1. We are currently experiencing a service disruption, trains are expected to be down for X more hours (in the station)
2. We are experiencing a momentary delay, we will continue on shortly (played on the train when it stops unexpectedly in the middle of the tracks)
3. We are experiencing a service delay, the next train will be delayed xx minutes (for short term hold-ups that sometimes happens, played in the station)
I think those 3 announcements would go a long way to letting us know what's going on. |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| alongway wrote: |
| wylies99 wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
At about 9:00am, line #2 shut down, and they said it wouldn't be up for hours.
I was at Gangbyeon station and had to get to Gannam.
What do you figure was the best course of action?
((and then I'll tell what what I actually did...and we can laugh if I'm an idiot)) |
You were at the station when they made an announcement? Was it in English? Just curious because it has been reported that no information was given in English. Also, the announcements were incomplete regarding the actual problems. |
For all the effort that they make in making English signs and announcing stops in English, would it kill them to make a couple generic announcements in English that they could use for these situations?
I noticed the last time I was on line 2 where the train sometimes stops service at Seong-su, they actually made an announcement in English this time indicating that it was the end of the line and to disembark. A few years ago, there was no English announcement they just made the Korean announcement and flashed the lights on the train interior.
There are really only a couple announcement we'd really need that they could hit a button and play in English.
We don't really need the full details at the time just:
1. We are currently experiencing a service disruption, trains are expected to be down for X more hours (in the station)
2. We are experiencing a momentary delay, we will continue on shortly (played on the train when it stops unexpectedly in the middle of the tracks)
3. We are experiencing a service delay, the next train will be delayed xx minutes (for short term hold-ups that sometimes happens, played in the station)
I think those 3 announcements would go a long way to letting us know what's going on. |
Hmm...ever consider learning the equivalents that they play or say in Korean? There's really not much variation in terms of what to expect. Then again, maybe you're right. Lord knows we shouldn't inconvenience that 1 or so percent who can't, or don't want to, learn Korean living here. 
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| rchristo10 wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
| wylies99 wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
At about 9:00am, line #2 shut down, and they said it wouldn't be up for hours.
I was at Gangbyeon station and had to get to Gannam.
What do you figure was the best course of action?
((and then I'll tell what what I actually did...and we can laugh if I'm an idiot)) |
You were at the station when they made an announcement? Was it in English? Just curious because it has been reported that no information was given in English. Also, the announcements were incomplete regarding the actual problems. |
For all the effort that they make in making English signs and announcing stops in English, would it kill them to make a couple generic announcements in English that they could use for these situations?
I noticed the last time I was on line 2 where the train sometimes stops service at Seong-su, they actually made an announcement in English this time indicating that it was the end of the line and to disembark. A few years ago, there was no English announcement they just made the Korean announcement and flashed the lights on the train interior.
There are really only a couple announcement we'd really need that they could hit a button and play in English.
We don't really need the full details at the time just:
1. We are currently experiencing a service disruption, trains are expected to be down for X more hours (in the station)
2. We are experiencing a momentary delay, we will continue on shortly (played on the train when it stops unexpectedly in the middle of the tracks)
3. We are experiencing a service delay, the next train will be delayed xx minutes (for short term hold-ups that sometimes happens, played in the station)
I think those 3 announcements would go a long way to letting us know what's going on. |
Hmm...ever consider learning the equivalents that they play or say in Korean? There's really not much variation in terms of what to expect. |
Didn't say I didn't know them. Do you expect every tourist coming through the country to learn those on the way over, of all the things they could be learning?
The English in the subways isn't really put there for the people living here long term. |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| alongway wrote: |
| rchristo10 wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
| wylies99 wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
At about 9:00am, line #2 shut down, and they said it wouldn't be up for hours.
I was at Gangbyeon station and had to get to Gannam.
What do you figure was the best course of action?
((and then I'll tell what what I actually did...and we can laugh if I'm an idiot)) |
You were at the station when they made an announcement? Was it in English? Just curious because it has been reported that no information was given in English. Also, the announcements were incomplete regarding the actual problems. |
For all the effort that they make in making English signs and announcing stops in English, would it kill them to make a couple generic announcements in English that they could use for these situations?
I noticed the last time I was on line 2 where the train sometimes stops service at Seong-su, they actually made an announcement in English this time indicating that it was the end of the line and to disembark. A few years ago, there was no English announcement they just made the Korean announcement and flashed the lights on the train interior.
There are really only a couple announcement we'd really need that they could hit a button and play in English.
We don't really need the full details at the time just:
1. We are currently experiencing a service disruption, trains are expected to be down for X more hours (in the station)
2. We are experiencing a momentary delay, we will continue on shortly (played on the train when it stops unexpectedly in the middle of the tracks)
3. We are experiencing a service delay, the next train will be delayed xx minutes (for short term hold-ups that sometimes happens, played in the station)
I think those 3 announcements would go a long way to letting us know what's going on. |
Hmm...ever consider learning the equivalents that they play or say in Korean? There's really not much variation in terms of what to expect. |
Didn't say I didn't know them. Do you expect every tourist coming through the country to learn those on the way over, of all the things they could be learning?
The English in the subways isn't really put there for the people living here long term. |
No I don't expect every tourist to learn Korean. I also don't think the subway was intended to care so much about tourists who happened to be on it.
The day that NY city announces the stops in Hebrew, Arabic, and Chinese is the day that perhaps your logic will flower meaning. Until then. Get over yourself and learn the language. Countries aren't made for tourists, so why expect them to consider such things as a tourist's convenience when dealing with the urban planning and transportation-related services.
If a tourist is momentarily inconvenienced then I say: get over it. They're abroad and likely will be inconvenieced by the oddity of newness to begin with (believe it or not, that's usually what they go abroad for to begin with and end up calling it cultural difference). I doubt that an annoucement over the subway will make all their inconveniences go away. So stop trying to blame your ignorance on tourists. Suck it up, pull out a book, and study.
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| rchristo10 wrote: |
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Didn't say I didn't know them. Do you expect every tourist coming through the country to learn those on the way over, of all the things they could be learning?
The English in the subways isn't really put there for the people living here long term. |
No I don't expect every tourist to learn Korean. I also don't think the subway was intended to care so much about tourists who happened to be on it.
The day that NY city announces the stops in Hebrew, Arabic, and Chinese is the day that perhaps your logic will flower meaning. Until then. Get over yourself and learn the language. Countries aren't made for tourists, so why expect them to consider such things as their convenience when dealing with the urban planning and transportation-related services. |
Once again, where did I say I didn't know the language?
I don't think it's me who needs to get over himself.
I simply pointed out that given the lengths they've already gone to to make the system accessible in English (And other languages, major transfers are announced in Japanese and Chinese, as well the automatic ticketing machines all have several language choices), those few announcements would go a long way to completing the goal of having the system fully accessible in English.
As for the subway system in NY, not really sure what that has to do with anything here. |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| alongway wrote: |
As for the subway system in NY, not really sure what that has to do with anything here. |
That, I'm sure.  |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Line 2 was down this morning |
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| alongway wrote: |
| rchristo10 wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
Didn't say I didn't know them. Do you expect every tourist coming through the country to learn those on the way over, of all the things they could be learning?
The English in the subways isn't really put there for the people living here long term. |
No I don't expect every tourist to learn Korean. I also don't think the subway was intended to care so much about tourists who happened to be on it.
The day that NY city announces the stops in Hebrew, Arabic, and Chinese is the day that perhaps your logic will flower meaning. Until then. Get over yourself and learn the language. Countries aren't made for tourists, so why expect them to consider such things as their convenience when dealing with the urban planning and transportation-related services. |
Once again, where did I say I didn't know the language?
I don't think it's me who needs to get over himself.
I simply pointed out that given the lengths they've already gone to to make the system accessible in English (And other languages, major transfers are announced in Japanese and Chinese, as well the automatic ticketing machines all have several language choices), those few announcements would go a long way to completing the goal of having the system fully accessible in English.
As for the subway system in NY, not really sure what that has to do with anything here. |
If a tourist is momentarily inconvenienced then I say: get over it. They're abroad and likely will be inconvenieced by the oddity of newness to begin with (believe it or not, that's usually what they go abroad for to begin with and end up calling it cultural difference). I doubt that an annoucement over the subway will make all their inconveniences go away. So stop trying to blame your ignorance on tourists. Suck it up, pull out a book, and study. |
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