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Seoul citizens' reaction to NK soldiers 1950
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:32 am    Post subject: Seoul citizens' reaction to NK soldiers 1950 Reply with quote

(View from 2:50)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ElG1l4SEHM&feature=relmfu
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No doubt they would be celebrating a similar invasion today.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the movie "Taegukki"
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you missed the part further down where they execute the women and children of the Koreans that worked for the Americans.
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
I think you missed the part further down where they execute the women and children of the Koreans that worked for the Americans.


I'm sure he didn't miss it.
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

catman wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
I think you missed the part further down where they execute the women and children of the Koreans that worked for the Americans.


I'm sure he didn't miss it.


Nah, I didn't miss it.

That's the point- Korean citizens didn't want the US military/former Japanese collaborators in the capital city or indeed anywhere on the peninsula.

The difference between the atrocities inflicted by both sides during the war was that the ROK/US forces were far more indiscriminant about who they slaughtered, while the North targeted those with known links to the US/Jpn collaborators; if you watch closely the executions referred to were concerning those names found on an official government list which the retreating ROK/US forces left behind in Seoul.

Although it was kangaroo court style, they actually asked if there were any objection or reason why those known to have helped the US military shouldn't be executed; the ROK/US military simply executed tens upon thousands in many cases with no trial, and often did in citizens (including women and children) who had absolutely no ties to the North; in other words the familiar US approach of "terrorize normal citizens into submission" well-known to people in El Salvador, Guatemala (in both cases Samsung and the conservative ROK gov't supported the US-backed operations with financial donations), Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam...

And as the clip points out, even the CIA reported that the majority of the citizens' sympathies lay squarely with the North. A big reason was that many Koreans had helped Mao to fight off the US-backed Chiang Kai Sheik-led Nationalists in China, and more vitally had seen the suppression/tortures/executions carried out by ROK/US military forces 1945-1950.

In the 21st century ROK citizens are still imprisoned if their views don't conform to US capitalist ideology-

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/eight-south-koreans-convicted-breaching-national-security-law-2011-02-24
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave Chance wrote:
they actually asked if there were any objection or reason why those known to have helped the US military shouldn't be executed;


REALLY? WOW so they consciensciously made sure it was OK with the public before executing collaboraters and thier wives and children.

Dave Chance wrote:
In the 21st century ROK citizens are still imprisoned if their views don't conform to US capitalist ideology-.


That must be why South Koreans brave walking through other countries like Vietnam and China and Cambodia to get into North Korea and its better way of life.



Dave Chance wrote:
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/eight-south-koreans-convicted-breaching-national-security-law-2011-02-24


When I am in the People's Paradise will I be able to reach out to this website? Oh I forgot I won't need to, the party takes care of all my needs. Power to the people!
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
Dave Chance wrote:
they actually asked if there were any objection or reason why those known to have helped the US military shouldn't be executed;


REALLY? WOW so they consciensciously made sure it was OK with the public before executing collaboraters and thier wives and children.

Dave Chance wrote:
In the 21st century ROK citizens are still imprisoned if their views don't conform to US capitalist ideology-.


That must be why South Koreans brave walking through other countries like Vietnam and China and Cambodia to get into North Korea and its better way of life.



Dave Chance wrote:
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/eight-south-koreans-convicted-breaching-national-security-law-2011-02-24


When I am in the People's Paradise will I be able to reach out to this website? Oh I forgot I won't need to, the party takes care of all my needs. Power to the people!


lol yup. Chance is a nut job.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave Chance wrote:


http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/eight-south-koreans-convicted-breaching-national-security-law-2011-02-24


I despise the North Korean regime with every bone in my body, but this kind of shit bothers me. I also don't like how pro-NK websites are blocked. Freedom of speech and all that.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget a lot of Seoulites hiked it south to Daegu and Busan, which were essentially untouched during the war. And a lot of them were North Koreans who came south in the 5 year period between the end of WWII and the Korean War. They knew how NK would treat anyone who made money.

I wonder if I were starving and had no resource to go south to Busan, would I take free food handouts from NK soldiers? Or just starve? Makes NK look superficially good, until the food supply ends.

Also, it just astounds me the number of pro-NKers on this forum.
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NohopeSeriously



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