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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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| Immi never discuss things like that over the phone, they'll call you in for a visit. |
maybe, if you give them your number (I don't)
I did have a former school contact me once giving me a heads up that immi had contacted them and wanted to know if I was still around - I had transfered to a ps - thought it was strange but apparently a few years ago that's the way kimmi worked.
I do recall a teacher who was working illegally got a call from Kimmi; they told her she needed to leave the country or be deported; she left the next day, she called me before hand (and our boss). I was legal, btw.
so it probably varies whether they actually call you, contact your school, or whatever.
basically, if you don't know the person, best to either hang up or ask for their info and to call them back later, then check it out. |
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nate1983
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Warning Voice Phishing: Targeting Foreigners |
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| He spoke with a Chinese-Korean accent that was so thick that it was initially too difficult for me to make out what exactly he was saying. |
I have also been getting some calls from Chinese people; initially it was someone calling the wrong number (I got a new phone recently), but then another guy kept persisting so I just stopped answering. Woke me up at 5am a couple days ago. I've also been having Filipino or other SE Asian people call (again, must be the phone).
If he spoke with such a heavy accent, why didn't you just try speaking Chinese to him? |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:43 am Post subject: Re: Warning Voice Phishing: Targeting Foreigners |
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| nate1983 wrote: |
| rchristo10 wrote: |
| He spoke with a Chinese-Korean accent that was so thick that it was initially too difficult for me to make out what exactly he was saying. |
I have also been getting some calls from Chinese people; initially it was someone calling the wrong number (I got a new phone recently), but then another guy kept persisting so I just stopped answering. Woke me up at 5am a couple days ago. I've also been having Filipino or other SE Asian people call (again, must be the phone).
If he spoke with such a heavy accent, why didn't you just try speaking Chinese to him? |
It didn't matter if he was Chinese. As I mentioned before, he also spoke Korean. I didn't find a problem with either and assumed he was working for Immigration--regardless of his mother tongue. (There was no reason for me to go all French on him and demand that he bastardize his own tongue, especially since I believed he was attempting to help me. My attentions weren't roused until my interactions with the second caller.)
ON ANOTHER NOTE AND WARNING: I'll report this on Monday. Apparently, if anyone has applied as a foreigner for the site called AFREECA, DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE APPLICATION PAGE CLAIMING THAT YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR A SIREN24 IDENTITY VERIFICATION.
I believe this is how they got my information including my name, phone number, registration number, and e-mail address. Two of my friends have also experienced this problem with the site. It specifically states that if you're a foreigner to put your information in the verification portion. By default, the program accepts your registration number then allows you to continue putting in your information only to deny your application after recording your data. I've asked a computer specialist at my uni and he confirms that the information is being recorded 'via html commands' (I'd presume he meant via html...I'm not a computer specialist). Anyways, it's a data scam.
Apparently, this required registration #-to-person-to-company system will prove to be even more disastrous for Korea, extending even beyond those that its own nationals are experiencing.
The only question I have now is how can the three be used in the country: one's name, registration number, and phone number?
In my home country, I wouldn't worry if someone got my license number, name, address, and phone number, because the system is much more retroactive and the burden is often not on the victim.
But here, your registration number seems to mean more than your name or other ID papers, and you're often held responsible even if someone else uses it. The system is self-destructive and clearly going to lead to more problems than it was initially meant to solve. It's a perfect way to empower potential and practicing scammers. Everything is so strongly linked here--our phone numbers, name, registration number, E-mail addresses. And with all this high tech, people's actual presence seems to be taken for granted. It wouldn't be hard to use these items to verify banks to make changes regarding our accounts via telephone interactions. So, I also believe that's why the criminals asked which bank I was using and that's a scary idea to say the least.
I know that there were some moves to lighten up this registration requirement idea of online websites for nationals, but I haven't seen anything at all in terms of application--that is, except for the scammers growing increasingly stronger by the hour--and apparently OUTSOURCING or even going GLOBAL! |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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ON ANOTHER NOTE AND WARNING: I'll report this on Monday. Apparently, if anyone has applied as a foreigner for the site called AFREECA, DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE APPLICATION PAGE CLAIMING THAT YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR A SIREN24 IDENTITY VERIFICATION.
I believe this is how they got my information including my name, phone number, registration number, and e-mail address. Two of my friends have also experienced this problem with the site. It specifically states that if you're a foreigner to put your information in the verification portion. By default, the program accepts your registration number then allows you to continue putting in your information only to deny your application after recording your data. I've asked a computer specialist at my uni and he confirms that the information is being recorded 'via html commands' (I'd presume he meant via html...I'm not a computer specialist). Anyways, it's a data scam. |
No, you're clearly not.
It's not remotely a data scam. Siren24 is part of the i-pin network created by the government to move away from using your ID number to sign-up for websites. They're one of several providers who allow you to create a user/ID on their site which you can then use by clicking the "i-pin" sign-up button on participating sites (which is getting to be most these days). These pass a verification to the site without passing your real name and ID number to the site.
It's in fact quite the opposite of a data scam. |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Why would Immi be asking for bank information? That would fall under the police jurisdiction. Haven't we been told before that governmental ministries don't communicate with each other? How's that old saying go, "There's a sucker born every minute" or something like that? |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
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ON ANOTHER NOTE AND WARNING: I'll report this on Monday. Apparently, if anyone has applied as a foreigner for the site called AFREECA, DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE APPLICATION PAGE CLAIMING THAT YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR A SIREN24 IDENTITY VERIFICATION.
I believe this is how they got my information including my name, phone number, registration number, and e-mail address. Two of my friends have also experienced this problem with the site. It specifically states that if you're a foreigner to put your information in the verification portion. By default, the program accepts your registration number then allows you to continue putting in your information only to deny your application after recording your data. I've asked a computer specialist at my uni and he confirms that the information is being recorded 'via html commands' (I'd presume he meant via html...I'm not a computer specialist). Anyways, it's a data scam. |
No, you're clearly not.
It's not remotely a data scam. Siren24 is part of the i-pin network created by the government to move away from using your ID number to sign-up for websites. They're one of several providers who allow you to create a user/ID on their site which you can then use by clicking the "i-pin" sign-up button on participating sites (which is getting to be most these days). These pass a verification to the site without passing your real name and ID number to the site.
It's in fact quite the opposite of a data scam. |
Alongway! Hi again. I guess you've been deemed an idiot in the other thread. Anyways, I know what Siren24 is, Mr. Clarification. What I explained is that the dummy site (before you enter Siren24) prompts you to put your personal information, stores it, and doesn't actually allow you to use the site. It's a scam aimed at you're putting your honest information, yes!, even after verifying your identity via Siren24. That's why it works. I've called 118 and they have confirmed it. The problem according to them is that it's a .com site and they are a bit limited in terms of what they can do to non-Korean based server sites.
My points are not about i-Pin or Siren24. It's about the Afreeca site, duh.
Tsk, tsk. Yet again you've outdone yourself. And still a bit bitter it seems.
For those of you who don't understand the bitterness visit here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=218847&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
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ON ANOTHER NOTE AND WARNING: I'll report this on Monday. Apparently, if anyone has applied as a foreigner for the site called AFREECA, DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE APPLICATION PAGE CLAIMING THAT YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR A SIREN24 IDENTITY VERIFICATION.
I believe this is how they got my information including my name, phone number, registration number, and e-mail address. Two of my friends have also experienced this problem with the site. It specifically states that if you're a foreigner to put your information in the verification portion. By default, the program accepts your registration number then allows you to continue putting in your information only to deny your application after recording your data. I've asked a computer specialist at my uni and he confirms that the information is being recorded 'via html commands' (I'd presume he meant via html...I'm not a computer specialist). Anyways, it's a data scam. |
No, you're clearly not.
It's not remotely a data scam. Siren24 is part of the i-pin network created by the government to move away from using your ID number to sign-up for websites. They're one of several providers who allow you to create a user/ID on their site which you can then use by clicking the "i-pin" sign-up button on participating sites (which is getting to be most these days). These pass a verification to the site without passing your real name and ID number to the site.
It's in fact quite the opposite of a data scam. |
Alongway! Hi again. I guess you've been deemed an idiot in the other thread. Anyways, I know what Siren24 is, Mr. Clarification. What I explained is that the dummy site (before you enter Siren24) prompts you to put your personal information, stores it, and doesn't actually allow you to use the site. It's a scam aimed at you're putting your honest information, yes!, even after verifying your identity via Siren24. That's why it works. I've called 118 and they have confirmed it. The problem according to them is that it's a .com site and they are a bit limited in terms of what they can do to non-Korean based server sites.
My points are not about i-Pin or Siren24. It's about the Afreeca site, duh.
Tsk, tsk. Yet again you've outdone yourself. And still a bit bitter it seems.
For those of you who don't understand the bitterness visit here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=218847&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 |
Yes, I'm sure they'll glean much from that discussion. Probably not what you were hoping though. I use afreeca quite a bit and visited the the sign-up form. it isn't remotely as you describe.
You click register, as in in country foreigner you click the over 14 button, then click on the i-pin.
The normal i-pin login box pops up and works just fine.
The sign-up from within the login box is right here:
https://ipin.siren24.com/i-PIN/jsp/ipin2_id_j10_01.jsp
running right on the siren24 site.
This is the i-pin provider that is actually recommended for use for foreigners:
http://www.g-pin.go.kr/center/main/index.gpin |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
| rchristo10 wrote: |
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ON ANOTHER NOTE AND WARNING: I'll report this on Monday. Apparently, if anyone has applied as a foreigner for the site called AFREECA, DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE APPLICATION PAGE CLAIMING THAT YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR A SIREN24 IDENTITY VERIFICATION.
I believe this is how they got my information including my name, phone number, registration number, and e-mail address. Two of my friends have also experienced this problem with the site. It specifically states that if you're a foreigner to put your information in the verification portion. By default, the program accepts your registration number then allows you to continue putting in your information only to deny your application after recording your data. I've asked a computer specialist at my uni and he confirms that the information is being recorded 'via html commands' (I'd presume he meant via html...I'm not a computer specialist). Anyways, it's a data scam. |
No, you're clearly not.
It's not remotely a data scam. Siren24 is part of the i-pin network created by the government to move away from using your ID number to sign-up for websites. They're one of several providers who allow you to create a user/ID on their site which you can then use by clicking the "i-pin" sign-up button on participating sites (which is getting to be most these days). These pass a verification to the site without passing your real name and ID number to the site.
It's in fact quite the opposite of a data scam. |
Alongway! Hi again. I guess you've been deemed an idiot in the other thread. Anyways, I know what Siren24 is, Mr. Clarification. What I explained is that the dummy site (before you enter Siren24) prompts you to put your personal information, stores it, and doesn't actually allow you to use the site. It's a scam aimed at you're putting your honest information, yes!, even after verifying your identity via Siren24. That's why it works. I've called 118 and they have confirmed it. The problem according to them is that it's a .com site and they are a bit limited in terms of what they can do to non-Korean based server sites.
My points are not about i-Pin or Siren24. It's about the Afreeca site, duh.
Tsk, tsk. Yet again you've outdone yourself. And still a bit bitter it seems.
For those of you who don't understand the bitterness visit here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=218847&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 |
Yes, I'm sure they'll glean much from that discussion. Probably not what you were hoping though. I use afreeca quite a bit and visited the the sign-up form. it isn't remotely as you describe.
You click register, as in in country foreigner you click the over 14 button, then click on the i-pin.
The normal i-pin login box pops up and works just fine.
The sign-up from within the login box is right here:
https://ipin.siren24.com/i-PIN/jsp/ipin2_id_j10_01.jsp
running right on the siren24 site.
This is the i-pin provider that is actually recommended for use for foreigners:
http://www.g-pin.go.kr/center/main/index.gpin |
Aww...dah little baby is bitter. 118 seems to disagree with you though. Take it up with them. Bug off...keke |
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