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Upsetting Korean news story
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coralreefer_1 wrote:
Sadly I feel that the BBC is giving it attention not because of the negligence of the police, (although it is mentioned) but more because of the gruesome nature of the crime.


Which then goes on to inspire and excite other like-minded people
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to top it all off-

Cho also said he regrets attempts at a police cover-up. Authorities initially claimed they dispatched more officers to the scene than they actually had, and said the victim's phone call lasted only seconds. (actually lasted for more than 6 minutes...she was talking to them after the initial attack holed up in a room she had managed to lock herself into, while he went out somewhere...the tail end of the conversation records the sound of the door breaking and her pleading the attacker to forgive her...)

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/09/world/asia/south-korea-police-resignation/index.html?hpt=ias_c2

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/04/117_108575.html
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20120409000979

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According to the victim�s family, the police officers dispatched to the scene were also irresponsible.

According to the family, two police officers waiting in a police vehicle with the victim�s older sister were sleeping while the search was under way saying only that �others were looking diligently.�


Sleeping on the job is nothing new for Korea's police force.

Quote:
In addition, officers at Suwon Jungbu Police Station later asked the sister to go to a fire station to bring back information regarding the location of the victim�s mobile phone


Why the fire station? Shouldn't the police have the capability to be able to track the location of the phone?
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Youtube video of the Korean news report has part of the actual phone call.


http://ajosshi.com/?p=902


This country really has a long way to go.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note how all the newspapers stress he was a Korean Chinese man.
And they only give his chinese name (even though his real name is a korean one).

So when an ethnic korean commits a crime, they choose to label him as chinese because he is from china. Rolling Eyes


The police service needs a radical overhaul here, from top to bottom.

lazy, inept, corrupt, unmotivated, underpaid...
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tardisrider



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would have been the actual best procedure for the police to find her? GPS tracking on the cell phone comes to mind, but I don't know if it's actually feasible in a short amount of time or if it's more common on TV than in real life. Also, I don't know the area at all, but if the only thing they knew was that it was between the park and the school, how easy would that have been to pinpoint? I'm not trying to excuse the cops, I'm just wondering what the real-life best procedures would be.
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liveinkorea316



Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tardisrider, in one of the news reports the whole crux of the scandal is that the Korean NEWS reporters went to the school and followed the directions she gave police and found that what she said gave very obvious directions to the house.

Secondly, no-one in the immediate area reported any police presence until 8 hours later - in the morning. Basically, the police never looked until the morning. When they did they found it quick enough.
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tardisrider



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

liveinkorea316 wrote:
Tardisrider, in one of the news reports the whole crux of the scandal is that the Korean NEWS reporters went to the school and followed the directions she gave police and found that what she said gave very obvious directions to the house.



Wow, I hadn't read that part. I had read about the police not searching the correct area until the next morning, but I don't know the particular details.

And again, I'm not trying to excuse the cops, I'm trying to understand what realistically should have and could have happened--as opposed to, say, a distorted CSI influenced view of what could have happened, if that makes sense.
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thrylos



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:




The police service needs a radical overhaul here, from top to bottom.


Head of the Police Dept just resigned... Not that it makes any difference, though... I wonder if they'll be any political reprocussions in Wed's elections...
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fosterman



Joined: 16 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ever been in a Korean police station?

you have policemen walking around in slippers, yawning, drinking coffee and going out for a cigarette every 20mins, they all look hungover, tired, and look like they slept in their clothes.
And the way they speak Korean is like they were educated in the gutter.
these guys can barely function, how the hell are they going to solve a crime?

they probably spend most of their nights, visiting room salons, bars and getting free drinks and service.
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fezmond



Joined: 27 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fosterman wrote:
ever been in a Korean police station?

you have policemen walking around in slippers, yawning, drinking coffee and going out for a cigarette every 20mins, they all look hungover, tired, and look like they slept in their clothes.
And the way they speak Korean is like they were educated in the gutter.
these guys can barely function, how the hell are they going to solve a crime?

they probably spend most of their nights, visiting room salons, bars and getting free drinks and service.


i was waiting to cross the road opposite a small police station in sinchon/edae and saw an ajossi take a swing at a copper inside the station. right in front of all the other coppers and nobody batted an eyelid. just pushed the guy away and went back to watching tv/sleeping etc
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rchristo10



Joined: 14 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it's done something. The police are out in full force in my neighborhood. I just saw 10 or so of them patrolling the area. Usually they just sleep in the car behind one of the apartments where I live. Smile
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://sjg03179.blog.me/110135792507

Here's the supposed 112 call.
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highstreet



Joined: 13 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dispatcher seemed concerned IMO. His tone didn't come off as apathetic to me. He was asking the questions I assume they normally should. The outcome is terrible though.
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maximmm



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

video of the abduction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDrE5_RaVfU
from what I can tell, he was pretty much waiting outside of his apartment/house. Abduction was made easy because all he had to do was simply push her into his house entrance alley. I would even go as far as say that it was preplanned.

As far as the police reports go.... there seem to be many conflicting reports. Some news reports say that police actually parked 20 meters away from the crime scene about two hours after the call was made (apparently the victim's mother/sister/cousin or some other relative was searching with the police). At the same time, there are reports that they never showed up and started to look only in the morning? In the end, what is obvious, directions were given, the call was made, gps tracking equipment was available - police acted only in the morning.
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