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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Korea has the death penalty but the guy would've had to kill several people to get fried.
The government also rarely puts an inmate to death. |
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soulofseoul
Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Yaya"]Korea has the death penalty but the guy would've had to kill several people to get fried.
The government also rarely puts an inmate to death.[/quote]
So for example, if he kills 3 no death penalty, but 4 he gets it? weird |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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So does Korea have the death penalty for a crime like this?
If not, whats the max.? |
Yes, they have it. But it's been about 20 years since someone was executed. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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From Wiki
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In December 2010, Kim Kil-tae was sentenced to death. Prosecutors will not plead to the Supreme Court.[5]
Three bills to abolish the death penalty are currently (June 2011) awaiting consideration by the Legislation and Judiciary Committee in South Korea�s National Assembly.
South Korea is now classified by Amnesty International as �abolitionist in practice.� No executions have been carried out in South Korea since December 1997. On taking office in 1998 former President Kim Dae-jung, a former death row prisoner himself, halted executions. |
Seems that they might be abolishing it soon. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Korean suspicion of Chinese, even those who are ethnically Korean, isn't just because of the latest incident. Many financial and online scams like phone phishing originate from China (either by Koreans or Korean Chinese), plus there is the traditional Korean fear of China given the latter's dominance over the Korean Peninsula.
That said, it'll be interesting what happens to this guy, though I'm thinking he'll get like 20 or more years in prison. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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so in the paper today they said, the police think he might be a serial killer because there have been 135 girls murdered or are missing in the that area
WOW, ya think?
I am so sick and tired of Korea always trying to hide their crimes, or cover up their bad side to the world, I love it how they keep referring to the killer as a chinese national. 135 girls murdered in paldong in suwon, a pretty small area, how come we never heard about them? why only this one?
I am thinking the family of the victim when to the news to expose it, and the police now are pointing fingers, getting fired , etc, before it was always gravy for them, no one ever knew, so no one to answer to for their incompetence. Im glad this one exposed the police for what they really are.
pathetic! |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| I love it how they keep referring to the killer as a chinese national. ! |
I don't have a problem with this - back home in NZ, the nationality of a criminal involved in a praticularly nasty crime is always part of the reporting. We've had a few murders involving the Chinese community, and recently a Fijian-Indian burned his wife to death, and their nationalities were in almost every single report on the crimes.
However, the 135 murders are pretty damning evidence of police incompetence. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:48 am Post subject: |
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However, the 135 murders are pretty damning evidence of police incompetence. |
And foreigners believe that Korea is a very safe country. how little they know. sure there is less street crime, as in, Drug dealers, homeboys, gang bangers, homeless, pimps, street kids, drug addicts, etc.. I mean those people are here in this society just not as expose as back home.
but when it comes to heinous crimes. Korea has Plenty! PLENTY!
135 girls missing and murdered just in a suburb of Suwon.
now how many are murdered across the country? if they keep those figures quiet just for suwon, I am sure the numbers for the country are more than the 2000 a year the police report, it's probably double that.
and how many missing persons?
or failed homicides?
people think new York city is dangerous with 532 murders in 2010
471. in 2009
we have 135 murders just in Yeongtong!
man we got to make a show CSI SEOUL!
the amount of stories which the cops must have on file would make 10 seasons no problem.
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/03/murders-rise-in-new-york-city-but-remain-near-historic-lows/
yeah I rememeber hearing about that guy in NZ who chopped up his girlfriend into little pieces and asked his mates to help dispose her,I mean seriously who chops people up into little pieces? man.. that's just beyond sick. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| fosterman wrote: |
so in the paper today they said, the police think he might be a serial killer because there have been 135 girls murdered or are missing in the that area
WOW, ya think?
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They might have 135 murders they have no idea how to solve so they could be just pinning it on this guy. The guy was good enough of a serial killer to get away with 135 murders but the police just found him with blind luck? I don't even the famous serial killers in the US rack up that kind of body count. |
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Kimchifart
Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:30 am Post subject: |
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so in the paper today they said, the police think he might be a serial killer because there have been 135 girls murdered or are missing in the that area
WOW, ya think?
I am so sick and tired of Korea always trying to hide their crimes, or cover up their bad side to the world, I love it how they keep referring to the killer as a chinese national. 135 girls murdered in paldong in suwon, a pretty small area, how come we never heard about them? why only this one?
I am thinking the family of the victim when to the news to expose it, and the police now are pointing fingers, getting fired , etc, before it was always gravy for them, no one ever knew, so no one to answer to for their incompetence. Im glad this one exposed the police for what they really are.
pathetic! |
My God. What the hell are the police doing with themselves to allow one guy to possibly get away with that many murders? Answer: as little as they appear to be.
Koreans really are getting to the point where they have to think about what kind of society they wish to live in and actually bring some effect. It's utterly maddening.
Even if these weren't attributable to one guy, what the hell is a small area in Suwon doing having 135 unsolved murders?
It seems the murder rate is as attributable for poor/non policing as it is to drugs/social problems/paternalism/poverty etc. They need to wake up.
Are you sure that's what it said? 135 just seems beyond belief.
If that is a real stat, this is in no way a safe country, certainly not for females. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| I'd say it's probably more like 135 unsolved murders or missing people in total, and they're predicting he had some role in some of those. I doubt they are contending that he did the lot, though it would clear the books a bit if they can convince him to confess, so they can get back to sleeping at a desk. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:10 am Post subject: |
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so in the paper today they said, the police think he might be a serial killer because there have been 135 girls murdered or are missing in the that area
WOW, ya think?
I am so sick and tired of Korea always trying to hide their crimes, or cover up their bad side to the world, I love it how they keep referring to the killer as a chinese national. 135 girls murdered in paldong in suwon, a pretty small area, how come we never heard about them? why only this one?
I am thinking the family of the victim when to the news to expose it, and the police now are pointing fingers, getting fired , etc, before it was always gravy for them, no one ever knew, so no one to answer to for their incompetence. Im glad this one exposed the police for what they really are.
pathetic! |
What makes you think that Korea is trying to hide murders? One look at murder statistics shows Korea relatively highly ranked (on most sites). As well, I see a fair bit of murders and the like mentioned any time I watch the Korean evening news.
Assaults and such, those statistics are grossly skewed because of bloodmoney. But, do you have any actual evidence that MANY murders are being covered up? |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| How long have those 135 cases been 'dormant'. Could be over many years. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:52 am Post subject: |
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It said 135 missing or murdered. I'm willing to bet more on the "missing" category than the murdered. I'd also be interested to see how far that goes back. I'm pretty sure missing includes people like runaway kids and fleeing battered wives and Salarymen who offed themselves one day and were never found, as well as people located 9 months later and their idiotic family forgot to mention it to the vigilant authorities who had moved on to the next case 8 1/2 months ago.
If that's only for one year, even if only 50% are murders, that's pretty high. Dallas had 133. San Jose had 41. Those are the two closest cities to Suwon in population. And that's in America, land of the Gun-Toting.
And if this was just in a neighborhood.....  Mover over Bodymore, Murderland (Home of the Misdemeanor Homicide) and Brightmoor, MI....
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| am so sick and tired of Korea always trying to hide their crimes |
True, but don't think that that is a uniquely Korean phenomenon. Police Depts and DAs around the world fudge their closure and conviction rates. |
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Mountain Mama
Joined: 20 Feb 2010
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:57 am Post subject: |
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so in the paper today they said, the police think he might be a serial killer because there have been 135 girls murdered or are missing in the that area
WOW, ya think?
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They might have 135 murders they have no idea how to solve so they could be just pinning it on this guy. The guy was good enough of a serial killer to get away with 135 murders but the police just found him with blind luck? I don't even the famous serial killers in the US rack up that kind of body count. |
135 is quite high.
According to Wikipedia, 71 was the highest confirmed kills from an American serial killer. One guy convicted of 27 was suspected of over 200. Two other guys were suspected of up to 90 or 100. There's only person on the list with more than 135 proven victims (a Columbian).
Never-the-less, given the guy's MO, it does seem possible that he's done it before. |
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