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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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 Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| Exactly what does your current contract says about airfare? |
About the airfare, my contract says, "After completion of the contract the teacher will be provided with the cash equivalent of return tickets to the closest international airport to his original residence."
There is nothing about what happens if I renew the contract at this school or stay in Korea with a different school. |
Since you are finishing your contract, you are owed and you should collect your airfare for the year even if you don't leave Korea. If you renew you should get cash and that is in your contract.
What happens next is up to negotiation.
There is no reason for you to work a second year for less money than the first. If you work a second year at the same school you should be a better teacher than you were during the first year. Airfare was part of the total cost of your first year and it will be part of the total cost if the school has to replace you. In addition, the school will have to pay another recruiter's fee if they replace you.
So, if you renew, you should insist on getting paid more. Your school can pay you what I listed above without any significant increase in their cost for you. You should get the cash equivalent of two plane tickets for each year you work.
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1) You should have a clause with an amount and date certain for payment of all final amounts from your first year for pay, overtime, airfare and severance etc.
2) An increase in your monthly base pay - at least 100,000 won minimum, depending on what else you get.
3) An increase in your hourly overtime rate.
4) You should include a clause in your renewal contract that guarantees cash for your airfare for completing the first contract.
You should get two more one-way tickets included for working the second year. These can be payable in cash at 6 months and 12 months. You can leave the amount open due to changing ticket prices or put in a fixed amount that both parties agree to.
You should include a date certain for payment of these amounts.
If you don't get airfare, these amounts are worth 100K to 200K won per month additional increase in base pay.
5) You should get your severance for the first year in cash right away - it's too risky to wait until the end of a second year for two months of severance, even a good school can get into financial trouble in twelve months. Put the amount and a date certain for payment in the renewal contract.
6) Don't forget to include severance for the second year. You should include a clause that guarantees prorata payments for severance if you don't finish the second year. |
BTW, I'm assuming that you are getting proper treatment for Pension, Health Insurance and Income Taxes. If not, you should not be renewing. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| luckylady wrote: |
| Jorj wrote: |
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| Exactly what does your current contract says about airfare? |
About the airfare, my contract says, "After completion of the contract the teacher will be provided with the cash equivalent of return tickets to the closest international airport to his original residence."
There is nothing about what happens if I renew the contract at this school or stay in Korea with a different school. |
that's because the only thing that is relevant is that you complete the contract, period.
this is a very common clause, btw. airfares change frequently and it's sometimes easier to just do a "wait and see" on the prices and pay on the end of the contract, no big deal.
stop by any travel agency, ask for a printout of a price fare for your school, 1 way from Seoul to your home city. make a copy for yourself and give the original to your school, very easy, 'k? |
The boss might also find a cheaper deal online. If so, just ask him to show you. If you want, just say that you're thinking of maybe making a short visit home in the near future and want to get the details. If the price he found was real, then that's probably all you'll get. Keep in mind though, the flight he shows you should be within a few weeks of your contract end date. Sometimes if you book far enough ahead of time you can get really cheap deals. The close to the departure date, the more expensive they are. So theoretically, if you WERE going home after the contract, you'd need the money for an available flight THEN, not 4 months later.
Once you're contract is finished, it's finished. Whether or not you're renewing, going home, or transferring elsewhere in Korea is irrelevant to your current contract. You're owed cash for a flight. IF you re-sign, then you should negotiate (as others have said). Basically, you want either a plane ticket (or cash equivalent) for each six months you work (either before or after - you choose) OR in lieu of airfare, you want a higher salary - at least 150,000 Won per month. (A raise in lieu of airfare can be good because you're guaranteed to get it. The boss can't screw you over as easily at the end of the year. It's also good for the boss in case he fires you or you quite.)
In addition to that, you also want a raise of at least 100,000 Won per month for simply re-signing. This is very common. In fact some places offer you +200,000/month for re-signing. You're more experienced at this particular job, and it saves the school from recruiting fees - plus they know you so you're better than an unknown new teacher from a recruiter. So..... if you're not taking airfare in the second year, then you should be asking for at least a 250,000 Won per month raise. Personally, I'd ask for 400,000/month and possibly negotiate down a little bit. Or get creative and ask for fewer hours, or permission to teach at a second location in another area of the city or a better apartment.
But the main thing to remember is that when the first contract finished, it finishes. All benefits indicated in the first contract are due. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:03 am Post subject: |
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But if you are changing schools and staying IN the country then neither the school you're leaving nor the new school owe you a ticket or the cash equivalent. |
that's total B.S. if it's in his contract, then it's owed. very simple. |
My contract specified that I had to leave the country within 10 days to get airfare (if I was not renewing). So no, in my case it's not BS. But it depends on what the OP's contract says. |
as stated, HIS contract not YOUR contract, so cut the BS already. |
And you can cut the belligerence. I wasn't telling him to follow my contract. I was using my contract as an example of stipulations for the OP to check for in his contract. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
| luckylady wrote: |
| isitts wrote: |
| luckylady wrote: |
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But if you are changing schools and staying IN the country then neither the school you're leaving nor the new school owe you a ticket or the cash equivalent. |
that's total B.S. if it's in his contract, then it's owed. very simple. |
My contract specified that I had to leave the country within 10 days to get airfare (if I was not renewing). So no, in my case it's not BS. But it depends on what the OP's contract says. |
as stated, HIS contract not YOUR contract, so cut the BS already. |
And you can cut the belligerence. I wasn't telling him to follow my contract. I was using my contract as an example of stipulations for the OP to check for in his contract. |
He told us what his contract says.
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About the airfare, my contract says, "After completion of the contract the teacher will be provided with the cash equivalent of return tickets to the closest international airport to his original residence."
There is nothing about what happens if I renew the contract at this school or stay in Korea with a different school. |
Do you still want to argue that the school doesn't owe him cash equivalent of a flight ticket? |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
| luckylady wrote: |
| isitts wrote: |
| luckylady wrote: |
| isitts wrote: |
But if you are changing schools and staying IN the country then neither the school you're leaving nor the new school owe you a ticket or the cash equivalent. |
that's total B.S. if it's in his contract, then it's owed. very simple. |
My contract specified that I had to leave the country within 10 days to get airfare (if I was not renewing). So no, in my case it's not BS. But it depends on what the OP's contract says. |
as stated, HIS contract not YOUR contract, so cut the BS already. |
And you can cut the belligerence. I wasn't telling him to follow my contract. I was using my contract as an example of stipulations for the OP to check for in his contract. |
somebody get a shovel, we're knee deep in it - |
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