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Which category best describes you
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Regardless of visa, which category do you fit into in Korea?
Married, great 'alternative' social set up with Korean and foreign friends, and happiness. Good money.
14%
 14%  [ 8 ]
Married, decent set up, some money. A Korean friend or 2. Some foreign friends
12%
 12%  [ 7 ]
Married, decent set up, some money and some foreign friends.
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
Married. Friends? I get by.
9%
 9%  [ 5 ]
A lifer - I'm in more or less the same position now as I was when I first came. It is what it is.
12%
 12%  [ 7 ]
Don't mind me. Just passing through.
18%
 18%  [ 10 ]
Other (feel free to describe below)
27%
 27%  [ 15 ]
Total Votes : 54

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pegasus64128



Joined: 20 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:40 pm    Post subject: Which category best describes you Reply with quote

Just a poll.

By 'alternative' I mean living a lifestyle which is not conventionally Korean - not a conventionally confucian lifestyle - more freeform, or movie star-like if you want. You jet set off to SE asia with your wife a few weeks of every year and possibly with friends or family too.
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jpe



Joined: 15 Aug 2011
Location: Seoul, SK

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So your categories are married (or rather, four kinds of being married), transient or static? And that's it?

I think you've bought into Confucianism more than you think.
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pegasus64128



Joined: 20 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpe wrote:
So your categories are married (or rather, four kinds of being married), transient or static? And that's it?

I think you've bought into Confucianism more than you think.


Without an F visa, there's nothing to sustain you in Korea. If you are one of the very few (who?? there's one I heard of) people that has an F visa; is of caucasian or african ethnicity; and isn't married, then you obviously belong to 'other' ..
I have bought into confucianism a little, and I'm not ashamed to say so.
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motiontodismiss



Joined: 18 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I consider confucianism (at least what it has become in Korea anyway) a toxic element of Korean culture that needs to be wiped out. Even China got rid of it, and they started it.

Back on topic-I belong to the "none of the above" category so I voted other.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm "other" since I'm not a dirty, unqualified, HIV infected, child-molesting foreigner like some of you. Very Happy I'm kidding. I'm pure-blooded Korean. Kimchi runs in my veins.

motiontodismiss wrote:
I consider confucianism (at least what it has become in Korea anyway) a toxic element of Korean culture that needs to be wiped out. Even China got rid of it, and they started it.

Back on topic-I belong to the "none of the above" category so I voted other.


I agree. What a crock of shit it is.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

motiontodismiss wrote:
I consider confucianism (at least what it has become in Korea anyway) a toxic element of Korean culture that needs to be wiped out. Even China got rid of it, and they started it.

Back on topic-I belong to the "none of the above" category so I voted other.


I sort of agree, but to be fair the circumstances in which China got rid of Confuscianism were pretty extreme. Without something similar happening in Korea it will take a long time to reach the same point
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

being a lifer and or being in the same position doesnt really matter unless its your thing, which after 10+ years I found some foreigners here, that they climbed the imiginary ladder of a Korean ex-pat person.....

as for me, I dont care about the position as long as the money is there..no?
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pegasus64128



Joined: 20 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

happiness wrote:
being a lifer and or being in the same position doesnt really matter unless its your thing, which after 10+ years I found some foreigners here, that they climbed the imiginary ladder of a Korean ex-pat person.....

as for me, I dont care about the position as long as the money is there..no?


I might be contradicting myself, but there are elements of confuciansim I don't like: arranged marriages, family cliques to name but a few but are they relics of confucianism or xenophobia?

It was just a poll fashioned out of curiosity and it doesn't hold much merit obviously. My understanding is that most married foreigners here are not particularly happy - (Married. Friends? I get by) but so far only one (honest) person selected that.

I can see how someone could become a lifer here. It's difficult to get a foothold from which to springboard yourself out or onto better things. Also, there are plenty of 'transients' that are here on a gap year for travel or for the experience and that's fine too, if they're responsible.

Also, fortunes can change of course. My sisters bf back home was flying high but then fell from grace somewhat due to economic circumstances.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegasus64128 wrote:
. My understanding is that most married foreigners here are not particularly happy - (Married. Friends? I get by) but so far only one (honest) person selected that.


Do you mean here in Korea, or here on Dave's ESL Cafe?
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put:
Married, decent set up, some money. A Korean friend or 2. Some foreign friends

The only thing that doesn't match is that I've 4 really good Korean friends, a few other Korean friends, though not as close, and dozens of foreign friends, some very close, others just fun for occasional nights out. Otherwise, yeah. "Married, decent set up, some money" sounds about right.
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pegasus64128



Joined: 20 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
pegasus64128 wrote:
. My understanding is that most married foreigners here are not particularly happy - (Married. Friends? I get by) but so far only one (honest) person selected that.


Do you mean here in Korea, or here on Dave's ESL Cafe?

Korea
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegasus64128 wrote:
tiger fancini wrote:
pegasus64128 wrote:
. My understanding is that most married foreigners here are not particularly happy - (Married. Friends? I get by) but so far only one (honest) person selected that.


Do you mean here in Korea, or here on Dave's ESL Cafe?

Korea


I don't know a great deal of married foreigners in Korea, but the ones I do know all seem relatively happy with their lot. Compared to married people I know in my home country, to me they seem about the same in terms of happiness.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm. We're very happy. We celebrate our first anniversary as a married couple next month. Good times.
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giraffe



Joined: 07 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked other...3 years happily married ( wife is korean), no kids, 1 puppy , decent place to live, barely any foreign or korean friends ( my choice =) ) , Not worried about money at all we're saving ALOT and we buy and do what we want when we want . We live in Korea to be close to my wife's family and because my wife can easily get a job here. I can do my job from anywhere in the world. I don't work in ESL.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah so this poll was made just to criticize people who marry Koreans. Gotcha.

For the record, I know several couples and they all seem happy with their lot.
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