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| Regardless of visa, which category do you fit into in Korea? |
| Married, great 'alternative' social set up with Korean and foreign friends, and happiness. Good money. |
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14% |
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| Married, decent set up, some money. A Korean friend or 2. Some foreign friends |
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12% |
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| Married, decent set up, some money and some foreign friends. |
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3% |
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| Married. Friends? I get by. |
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9% |
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| A lifer - I'm in more or less the same position now as I was when I first came. It is what it is. |
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12% |
[ 7 ] |
| Don't mind me. Just passing through. |
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18% |
[ 10 ] |
| Other (feel free to describe below) |
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27% |
[ 15 ] |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Awkward poll. Wondering about how western guys who are married to Korean women, which better be the majority if you're staying here long term, are perceived by themselves? Good luck getting effective results. This post adheres to a bogus ideal that only exists in the suppository. Married people will generally comply with being happily married, and single people will generally comply with being happily single, when asked anonymously. This poll will tell you nothing. But, being married stinks if you want to have sex with other women. I've figured out that much from the married women that I've slept with. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| This post adheres to a bogus ideal that only exists in the suppository |
What does that mean?
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| Married people will generally comply with being happily married, and single people will generally comply with being happily single, when asked anonymously. This poll will tell you nothing |
I think the general consensus is that anonymous polls on sensitive subjects yield better results than asking people to their face.
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| But, being married stinks if you want to have sex with other women. |
That's like saying 'married life stinks if you want to be on your own all the time.' Fairly obvious.
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| I've figured out that much from the married women that I've slept with. |
Really, you had to have sex with other men's wives before you came to this stunning conclusion?
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| the married women that I've slept with |
Are we supposed to be impressed with this? |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| Ouch, when you break it down like that, I guess what I said deserved that kind of response. Maybe my commitment issues are starting to rear their head. I honestly don't care whether or not people want to get married. And no one is more infinitely unimpressed than myself regarding some of the relationships I've had in the past, believe me. It has been extremely difficult for me to trust women for a number of years now. Should have omitted most of what I put in there, bad day, running on fumes, my apologies. Carry on. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Hit other.
Married (17 years this June), great social set up with Korean and foreign friends (deleted alternative because I don't consider my social situation to be alternative), and happiness. Awesome (read hand over fist, biggest problem is counting and keeping it from uncle Sam) money.
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| I'm Happily married. My wife is Korean. Single life was good, but married life is much better. I have a few Korean friends and a few foreign friends. I'm sure I could have more but I like to have some time alone to induldge in my hobbies. My wife and I have our own school, the money is good. Just like my home country, Korea has its positives and negatives. Overall, things are well. I suppose I will be a lifer here, or at least until retirement. Then perhaps my wife and I might have Korea as our home base while traveling or living in other countries. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| wooden nickels wrote: |
| I'm Happily married. My wife is Korean. Single life was good, but married life is much better. I have a few Korean friends and a few foreign friends. I'm sure I could have more but I like to have some time alone to induldge in my hobbies. My wife and I have our own school, the money is good. Just like my home country, Korea has its positives and negatives. Overall, things are well. I suppose I will be a lifer here, or at least until retirement. Then perhaps my wife and I might have Korea as our home base while traveling or living in other countries. |
Thanks for sharing such a well balanced view of things. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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I can see how someone could become a lifer here. It's difficult to get a foothold from which to springboard yourself out or onto better things. . |
So being a lifer here excludes you from spring-boarding onto better things?
How about those of us who are lifers who have set up a very comfortable lifestyle ( such as a salary and working conditions that are far above the norm)? Like most other things ESL is only a dead end career if you don't have the imagination/credentials/experience/network to keep on moving forwards.
Clicked other. |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| pegasus64128 wrote: |
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I can see how someone could become a lifer here. It's difficult to get a foothold from which to springboard yourself out or onto better things. . |
So being a lifer here excludes you from spring-boarding onto better things?
How about those of us who are lifers who have set up a very comfortable lifestyle ( such as a salary and working conditions that are far above the norm)? Like most other things ESL is only a dead end career if you don't have the imagination/credentials/experience/network to keep on moving forwards.
Clicked other. |
+1 "the imagination/credentials/experience/network to keep on moving forwards."
I would think that anywhere in the world it's somewhat difficult to springboard yourself out or onto better things.
Of the few lifers I know here, they all seem comfortable with their situations and seem to be doing very well. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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I can see how someone could become a lifer here. It's difficult to get a foothold from which to springboard yourself out or onto better things. . |
So being a lifer here excludes you from spring-boarding onto better things?
How about those of us who are lifers who have set up a very comfortable lifestyle ( such as a salary and working conditions that are far above the norm)? Like most other things ESL is only a dead end career if you don't have the imagination/credentials/experience/network to keep on moving forwards.
Clicked other. |
That's not my point. What I was trying to say is that a lifer can't vote, or set up a company or any other of the myriad of things some people want to do but can't on an E visa. You could be loaded with money in Korea, be single and then what? You'd have to get married or go to a different country if you want to retire or set up a business. Maybe my view is too long term. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| I've never come across anyone who expressed a desire to stay here for the rest of their lives who wasn't either married to a Korean or planning to marry a Korean. With the possible exception of fromtheuk who said he wanted to stay here forever then moved to Saudi about three weeks later. |
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nate1983
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:30 am Post subject: |
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You could be loaded with money in Korea, be single and then what? You'd have to get married or go to a different country if you want to retire or set up a business. |
Um, no you don't. F2 visa, D8 visa (which I have)...plenty of options available. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| pegasus64128 wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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I can see how someone could become a lifer here. It's difficult to get a foothold from which to springboard yourself out or onto better things. . |
So being a lifer here excludes you from spring-boarding onto better things?
How about those of us who are lifers who have set up a very comfortable lifestyle ( such as a salary and working conditions that are far above the norm)? Like most other things ESL is only a dead end career if you don't have the imagination/credentials/experience/network to keep on moving forwards.
Clicked other. |
That's not my point. What I was trying to say is that a lifer can't vote, or set up a company or any other of the myriad of things some people want to do but can't on an E visa. You could be loaded with money in Korea, be single and then what? You'd have to get married or go to a different country if you want to retire or set up a business. Maybe my view is too long term. |
That is a bit of an ignorance of the facts!
There ARE other types of visas available to foreigners in Korea, including business and investment visas that are in no way tied to a person being married to a Korean national..... |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| I've never come across anyone who expressed a desire to stay here for the rest of their lives who wasn't either married to a Korean or planning to marry a Korean. |
Me. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:36 am Post subject: |
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[/quote]Me.[quote]
Great. If it's not too personal a question, could you tell us why? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
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| I've never come across anyone who expressed a desire to stay here for the rest of their lives who wasn't either married to a Korean or planning to marry a Korean. |
Me. |
I know a few lifers who are not married to Korean nationals and who are not planning on doing so. They stay for their own reasons. |
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