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US: Strike on N. Korea Possible if Nuclear Test Held
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TL



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:01 am    Post subject: US: Strike on N. Korea Possible if Nuclear Test Held Reply with quote

Has the US ever publicly stated that it would strike NK pre-emptively?

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The commander of the U.S. Pacific Command says the U.S. may launch a surgical strike against missile bases and nuclear test sites in North Korea if it conducts a third nuclear test.

Admiral Samuel Locklear explained the U.S.'s position on Tuesday at a meeting with South Korean defense journalists at the South Korea-U.S. Combined Forces Command (CFC) in Seoul.

Locklear said Washington is closely watching the North in relation to the possibility of a third nuclear test, adding the U.S. and South Korea are looking at all options including a surgical strike.

Regarding the North�s new long-range ballistic missile unveiled on Sunday, Locklear said the U.S. will closely monitor the North�s missile development in cooperation with South Korea and other allies.

The commander added that the U.S. will maintain its military presence of about 28-thousand-500 troops in South Korea.


http://world.kbs.co.kr/english/news/news_Po_detail.htm?No=89689&id=Po
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Julius



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any strike on DPRK would bring down a massive barrage of artilery on Seoul.


I suppose at some point the sacrifice may be necessary if ROK finds themselves in an Iran-Israel type of scenario. But so far no evidence of a deliverable nuclear device.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Any strike on DPRK would bring down a massive barrage of artilery on Seoul.


I suppose at some point the sacrifice may be necessary if ROK finds themselves in an Iran-Israel type of scenario. But so far no evidence of a deliverable nuclear device.


If the US did that, NK would target a US carrier with their nukes.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Target all they want... I doubt they have the capability to deliver.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Target all they want... I doubt they have the capability to deliver.


They don't need to have a direct hit. If it were to happen, NK would likely launch 200+ missiles at the same time, with 1 or 2 being nukes. They can do 6+ volleys with their current stock. The U.S. ain't that stupid.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So theyd launch thousands of missiles and a couple of Nukes at a carrier??

I'm not a war strategist, but something seems way off there.

As well, their ability to continue with said volleys would be in question after the first launch, no? Especially if a nuclear devise was in the mix.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard NK is nowhere near being able to fit a nuke onto a missile (this is a huge tech leap apparently far beyond just building a room-sized device), but since governments everywhere lie like rugs (including my own) I have no way of knowing if this is actually the case.

I'm against a war breaking out in the Koreas mostly for selfish reasons - I have family and real estate there and it would be nice to later see them and it again.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
So theyd launch thousands of missiles and a couple of Nukes at a carrier??

I'm not a war strategist, but something seems way off there.

As well, their ability to continue with said volleys would be in question after the first launch, no? Especially if a nuclear devise was in the mix.


NK couldn't fire 1 or 2 and expect a hit. They'd likely be shot down.

200+ missiles fired at the same time would throw off any defense system. They'd merely be decoys to improve the odds for a nuke or 2 to strike.

NK nukes are at the ready.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
I've heard NK is nowhere near being able to fit a nuke onto a missile (this is a huge tech leap apparently far beyond just building a room-sized device), but since governments everywhere lie like rugs (including my own) I have no way of knowing if this is actually the case.

I'm against a war breaking out in the Koreas mostly for selfish reasons - I have family and real estate there and it would be nice to later see them and it again.


NK short/medium range missiles are capable. Their ICBM tech is ddong.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever - time to ignore those pukes.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Any strike on DPRK would bring down a massive barrage of artilery on Seoul.



That is fundamentally the problem with North Korea. The artillery could include chemical and biological weapons as well. Although my understanding is the American forces are pretty well prepared for the artillery barrage. The artillery would be targeted very quickly.

But why strike at North Korea just because they test a nuclear device that they can't delliver. Just take a look at thier successful rocket launches designed to ruthlessly instill fear in and destroy the cowardly imperialistic americans and thier decadent lackeys in South Korea and around the world.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajosshi wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
So theyd launch thousands of missiles and a couple of Nukes at a carrier??

I'm not a war strategist, but something seems way off there.

As well, their ability to continue with said volleys would be in question after the first launch, no? Especially if a nuclear devise was in the mix.


NK couldn't fire 1 or 2 and expect a hit. They'd likely be shot down.

200+ missiles fired at the same time would throw off any defense system. They'd merely be decoys to improve the odds for a nuke or 2 to strike.

NK nukes are at the ready.


And you know this, how?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajosshi wrote:


If the US did that, NK would target a US carrier with their nukes.


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fermentation



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just hope this isn't another excuse by the US to start another war. I'm always wary of these sorts of news.

Julius wrote:
Any strike on DPRK would bring down a massive barrage of artilery on Seoul.


I'm not so sure of that. They know that any sort of aggressive action on the scale would prompt a similar response. I'm assuming the North Korean leadership isn't stupid and knows what kind of capabilities the combined force of the ROK and US military has. They would be signing their death warrant. It's the same reason I don't believe they have the balls to use a nuke other than as a last ditch effort.


ajosshi wrote:

If the US did that, NK would target a US carrier with their nukes.


That seems highly unlikely. A carrier can sit comfortable outside the range of NK theatre ballistic missiles. Even if they have long range capabilities, it's extremely difficult to hit a moving naval vessel, which is why it's such a big deal that China is making such a missile. This is also assuming they can spare the tactical nuclear warheads which they may not even have.

If you're talking about striking nuclear facilities, the US doesn't even need to send a carrier. They can send stealth fighters to do the job. I bet the Air Force would jump at the chance to finally use the F-22 in combat and justify it's ludicrous price tag.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
ajosshi wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
So theyd launch thousands of missiles and a couple of Nukes at a carrier??

I'm not a war strategist, but something seems way off there.

As well, their ability to continue with said volleys would be in question after the first launch, no? Especially if a nuclear devise was in the mix.


NK couldn't fire 1 or 2 and expect a hit. They'd likely be shot down.

200+ missiles fired at the same time would throw off any defense system. They'd merely be decoys to improve the odds for a nuke or 2 to strike.

NK nukes are at the ready.


And you know this, how?


1. Common sense. Any cop or military person will agree that any weapon you have needs to be ready to go. If not, you don't keep it.

2. I worked with people in intelligence. Still have family and friends that are active.
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