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Never get a Root Canal in Korea!
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So I take it you'd find no offense if I said:

Why must British expats be the biggest wankers in the world? Seems like Jeremy Clarkson's characterization of them being whinging poms, because they�re all failures is spot on.


To be honest I don't think anything you or Jeremy Clarkson says is ever going to cause me real offense.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:

Maybe the next time people start complaining about the media's negative portrayal of foreigners and the relevant article doesn't mention the word "ALL" you will be as quick to point that out as well?

Nope. You'd be better suited for that job with your penchant for requiring everyone to overuse qualifiers just to please a few sensitive nitpickers who read way too much into every statement. Unlike you, I understand that it doesn't mean "ALL" when it doesn't mention the word. Although in those articles, they may mean a significant percentage or "most" since we pretty much know the occasional bias they tend to show (well, maybe you don't know it.)
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And what is hilariously ironic about this post...look at the title and the OP and then read what Makoda wrote again about some foreigners thinking their personal experience equates to absolute truths.

We have a poster having a negative experience at a dentist in Korea...which then equates to "Never get a root canal in Korea"

You lecturing others on issues of language and reading comprehension is the ironic part.
"...unless you like pain!" is what it said directly after in the post itself, referring to the tendency of doctors here to use less or sometimes no anesthetics for knowingly painful procedures. By the way, tendency means some "tend" to do it, which means not ALL.

Also, show us the poster who claimed his personal experience "equates to absolute truths" in terms of ALL (100 percent) cases. Even if you find him and question him, I'm betting he stated his own experience and his own generalization, and knows it doesn't represent ALL Koreans. But given his personal experience, he's comfortable warning others about the potential for similar things to happen to them.

What a lot of threads come down to on Dave's is a few hypersensitive nitpickers misread things, put their own spin on it, then try to put everyone else on the defensive and the whole thread gets derailed into pedantry.

So to save everyone some time, here's a disclaimer that can be pasted into the posts so nobody has to waste any more valuable time arguing with these people:

"(It shall be known and understood that references to Korea or Koreans from the post above DO NOT necessarily mean "ALL of Korea or ALL Koreans" unless specifically labelled as such. It is hereby understood that any generalizations made shall be viewed as what they are: generalizations, meaning they may not represent "absolute truth" but rather a mixture of personal experience, opinion, and/or other informational sources not specifically cited here. This disclaimer renders any pedantic "apologist" complaints or nitpicks hereafter as null and void. Any individual wishing to challenge the language in the above post can call the number 1-800-GET-A-LIFE.)"
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good idea, I like it
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:
edwardcatflap wrote:
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The lesson is: stereotype. It's faster.



Yes that's right. And remember we can stereotype about positive things as well as negative. It's how we are able to have a normal conversation without having to sound like politicians all the time.

No! You MUST put multiple qualifiers and disclaimers into every sentence, or a few posters on here will think you mean ALL Koreans, ALL the time. Laughing


You two clearly either do not get it or just refuse to get it.

Carry on.
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Mix1



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Mix1 wrote:
edwardcatflap wrote:
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The lesson is: stereotype. It's faster.



Yes that's right. And remember we can stereotype about positive things as well as negative. It's how we are able to have a normal conversation without having to sound like politicians all the time.

No! You MUST put multiple qualifiers and disclaimers into every sentence, or a few posters on here will think you mean ALL Koreans, ALL the time. Laughing


You two clearly either do not get it or just refuse to get it.

Carry on.

Nice one. Define "it".
As much as you guys want to laud some sort of feigned sophistication over the rest of us, it might be helpful to realize that you guys are the ones with the problem, not us. We took a poll and it's official.

This is basically just anecdotes vs. anecdotes with a few posters crying about the delivery style.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


What was the thread title again?
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd describe my dentist as mediocre. He's filled some cavities, done one root canal--five trips-- and two caps on teeth that cracked from having very old cavities. His work is serviceable, but I don't look at the caps, one of which later cracked, and say what a great job he did. Plus he doesn't take x-rays unless he sees something suspicious.

The hygienists, however, all seem to have trained at the little shop of horrors. I never experienced pain at the dentist's until going to one in Korea.

As for cost, don't forget you're paying for that one a monthly basis. At my last public school teacher's job in the U.S., dental was included and regular visits were only $6.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:

What was the thread title again?



Indeed.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:

What was the thread title again?


Quite true. I am guitly of straying off thread course!

Back on track.

Dentists in Korea are in my experience quite good. I had a problem with one but that was the only dentist related issue I had in over 10 years there.
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jacksthirty



Joined: 30 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your teeth are decayed heavily then it's gonna hurt!

I've had 4 root canals here and have been in varying degrees of pain!

The first two trips consisted of this routine;

Anesthetic
Drill
Pain
Anesthetic
Drill
Pain
Anesthetic
Drill
Pain
'But sir, I cannot give you anything more for the pain'
Drill
Pain....

But for the 3rd one, I went to a different dentist and after drilling he injected straight into the nerve (I think). It was the most intense pain I've ever had. Instintively I grabbed his hand, but he forced the needle down. After a couple of seconds the pain vanished.

I had a milk tooth extracted a few years back (yes, a baby tooth) and it hurt like hell. It was so decayed, he had to drill it in half and yank out the pieces. He showed me the tooth afterwards and complained about the decay!
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T-J



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


FYI sedation dentistry is an option in Korea. If anyone needs a very professional, modern, English speaking staff in NW Seoul, shoot me a PM. Sedation dentistry for those that are unfamiliar does not mean you are knocked out. You are able to respond to the dentist throughout the procedure. You do not have any memory of it after though.
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jacksthirty



Joined: 30 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:

FYI sedation dentistry is an option in Korea. If anyone needs a very professional, modern, English speaking staff in NW Seoul, shoot me a PM. Sedation dentistry for those that are unfamiliar does not mean you are knocked out. You are able to respond to the dentist throughout the procedure. You do not have any memory of it after though.


That would have helped me a couple of times!
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