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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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 Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously? I find this post somewhat ironic.
This is a board for English teachers, not High Net-worth individuals.
How many posters on this board fail to pass all those criteria (not directed specifically at the OP).
1. Same educational level. Far more Koreans have bachelors degrees than people from back home, and I'd say the same goes for post-grad qualifications too.
2. Have your parents achieved a decent net worth? Most of the ESL teachers I know come from decidedly middle-class backgrounds. From what I read about the debt crisis in the first world, it wouldn't be crazy to assume more than a few of their families have their heads under water.
3. Far point, I guess. Though you might wanna scan for heart disease, and any other genetic/hereditary diseases too.
4. What are your siblings doing? Again, Korea's unemployment rate is lower than the West's. (Both published and unpublished). Would you classify teaching English at Ding Dong Dang as gainfully employed?
5. SERIOUSLY. How many teachers here have student loans. Practically every American teacher I've met under 35 has some kind of student debt.
I understand you don't want to marry the girl you met at the local RLD who is into a loan shark for $200k.
6. How many here pass that one? I suppose you could say public school teachers fall under the government category, except without the stability, and the government programme's proven track record of not knowing whether they will be hiring teacher's next year. Until you get married, your sitting here on an E2, and immigration's policies have a huge impact on your future.
I doubt the majority of posters on Dave's passes all of those on the list himself. Even so, 2, 3, and 4 are all out of the control of the people concerned. I pass all 6, then again, I wouldn't call my GEPIK gig a "stable job".. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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My ideal list for a girl (K or not):
2/ Financially independent and no outstanding debt of any kind
3/ Parents and siblings are gainfully employed, rich or in some other way financially independent (i.e. have a steady revenue stream of some kind)
5/ Decent, well paying job that earns her something around my level of income
6/ Willing and ready to sign a prenup renouncing any claim to any of my assets or income, past, present or future. I will do the same.
11/ I manage my finances, she manages hers. As long as common expenses get paid, Each minds their own business and neither party touches the other's |
Must. . . protect . . . 2.1 million won goldmine. . . at. . . all. . . cost! |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to answer Otherside's post
1. I have an MA. My girlfriend has a Bachelors degree.
2. My parents have paid off their mortgage for a house worth 250,000gbp they also bought my grandmother's apartment for her. They have a decent pension and are financially self sufficient.
3. I'm fit and healthy (apart from IBS). My family is, knock on wood, healthy too.
4. My brother and his wife work for the government. They have a son and are doing fine.
5. The loans I took when I was in uni I put into a high interest ISA. The interest helped me clear my debts quicker than most. I now have some, albeit meagre, savings based in my home country. I'm 30 years old.
6. You've got me on this point. The jobs here are not stable and although I have a good job at a uni it could be made obsolete in a year.
I agree that the points that have been made in this thread are ridiculous, however there are some posters here that are stable, financially viable adults.
I'd advise people to marry someone they
1. Love and respect
2. Can reach a compromise with in difficult circumstances
3. Is your best friend
The rest can be worked on together. My friend married a women who met all the OP's criteria and he is one unhappy chappy. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| 4. No outstanding debt. |
Considering the nature of debt in this country and elsewhere, this seems rather harsh. How about, 'if she has debt, she has a plan for paying it off, she's demonstrated that she can apply the plan, and she's committed to better financial decisions in the future?'
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Here in Korea, that depends on family background. If it's a modest debt, I could even help pay some of it off, as long as I'm not taken for a sucker that can be milked again at a later date. It's all about family background here so it depends on how I feel about her family too. Are they responsible, decent people? |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:12 am Post subject: |
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#25, Open secret bank account and dump all money you have into it before disclosing financial assets. This secret account will get you started on those 3rd round nights out w/boys when it's your turn to pay for hookers.
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:23 am Post subject: Re: Checklist for Marrying a Local |
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Here is a common sense checklist you might want to consider before you tie the knot with a local. Obviously it is a generalization and does not cover all the bases. However, this checklist is pretty much the same criteria a local would use. This checklist comes under the, "Don't Judge a Book by it's Cover." And since most of us can't even read Korean we really can't judge the quality of what we are buying.
1/ At least the same educational level as yourself.
2/ Parents who have achieved at least average net worth.
3/ No history of mental illness in the family.
4/ ALL siblings are gainfully employed.
5/ No outstanding debt. (Easily checked)
6/ Decent job preferably in banking, government or chaebol. |
99 percent of Korean women who have those things would never marry an ESL teacher. |
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:00 am Post subject: Re: Checklist for Marrying a Local |
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| FDNY wrote: |
Here is a common sense checklist you might want to consider before you tie the knot with a local. Obviously it is a generalization and does not cover all the bases. However, this checklist is pretty much the same criteria a local would use. This checklist comes under the, "Don't Judge a Book by it's Cover." And since most of us can't even read Korean we really can't judge the quality of what we are buying.
1/ At least the same educational level as yourself.
2/ Parents who have achieved at least average net worth.
3/ No history of mental illness in the family.
4/ ALL siblings are gainfully employed.
5/ No outstanding debt. (Easily checked)
6/ Decent job preferably in banking, government or chaebol. |
99 percent of Korean women who have those things would never marry an ESL teacher. |
DOT
Some of you guys are crazy if you think a Chaebols daughter is going to marry an ESL teacher. |
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Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| motiontodismiss- I'm never sure if people are joking on here, so I'll take it as face value. She needs to have a job AND you expect her to home school the kid? Will you show a future wife this contract or, like a hagwon owner, will that sort of thing be expected but never mentioned beforehand? |
Things like flextime and work-from-home arrangements exist for a reason. And homeschooling doesn't necessarily require a parent to sit with the kid every waking moment. The kid would study with a nanny then we would check to make sure they're doing their work in the evening. I'll obviously mention all of this beforehand. I believe in full disclosure and transparency.
At least that's the idea. I'm not so hung up on getting married or even dating so if I don't find the perfect person I'll stay single. I like being single. It's less expensive. |
Glad you enjoy being single because from reading your requirements I have a feeling you'll be single for a very long time. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| 99 percent of Korean women who have those things would never marry an ESL teacher. |
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DOT
Some of you guys are crazy if you think a Chaebols daughter is going to marry an ESL teacher. |
There was a debate on this around a year ago. Lots of people posted what their wives' financial situation was and about 20% of people were married to women from well off backgrounds. Probably slightly higher than you'd expect as a national average. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Hokie21 wrote: |
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| Squire wrote: |
| motiontodismiss- I'm never sure if people are joking on here, so I'll take it as face value. She needs to have a job AND you expect her to home school the kid? Will you show a future wife this contract or, like a hagwon owner, will that sort of thing be expected but never mentioned beforehand? |
Things like flextime and work-from-home arrangements exist for a reason. And homeschooling doesn't necessarily require a parent to sit with the kid every waking moment. The kid would study with a nanny then we would check to make sure they're doing their work in the evening. I'll obviously mention all of this beforehand. I believe in full disclosure and transparency.
At least that's the idea. I'm not so hung up on getting married or even dating so if I don't find the perfect person I'll stay single. I like being single. It's less expensive. |
Glad you enjoy being single because from reading your requirements I have a feeling you'll be single for a very long time. |
Marriage is overrated. I've seen very few people who are really happy about it. And statistics show that a lot of people regret it.
Plus unless you're a pseudo-chaebol getting married+having kids=one way ticket to poverty for life. Why anyone would weigh themselves down with such expensive responsibilities is beyond me, but to each his/her own. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'd advise people to marry someone they
1. Love and respect
2. Can reach a compromise with in difficult circumstances
3. Is your best friend |
+1
I don't know though, my fiancee has a crappy job so maybe I should just call the whole thing off in light of this insightful thread. |
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Modernist
Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Plus unless you're a pseudo-chaebol getting married+having kids=one way ticket to poverty for life. Why anyone would weigh themselves down with such expensive responsibilities is beyond me, but to each his/her own |
Another romantic!
Speaking seriously, though, I feel sorry for you if you run everything in your life through a cost-benefit calculator. Having kids is a major decision, and if you don't want to do it you obviously shouldn't, but on the reasons not to do it, 'because they cost too much' has got to be about the dumbest I've ever heard. How much any kid costs is impossible to predict reliably, and your own choices have a lot of influence over it. From where you live to how often you indulge them to the values you instill in them. Not everyone decides to spend $25,000 a year on some preppie kindergarten or $2500 on a super-customized 3rd birthday party for 100 [and I pity the people who do].
You sound like you'd be fine ending up rich and alone. What's the point of all your saved money, then? Traveling alone, living alone, buying expensive whatevers for yourself? That doesn't sound like much of a life to me. Money is a means to an end, not an end in itself. The point of life is knowledge, wisdom, happiness, love; not a cold vault of cash and things that no one sees, uses or cares about except you. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Modernist wrote: |
The point of life is knowledge, wisdom, happiness, love; not a cold vault of cash and things that no one sees, uses or cares about except you. |
Sure, like you can achieve this when you're not sure where your next credit card payment's going to come from? IMO happiness can only be achieved with financial security. Love, unfortunately, can be effected in some way by financial security or the lack thereof. All of those things you mentioned are in some way influenced by financial security. We all want to pretend to not care about money, but it's something that everyone should discuss openly. |
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goreality
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Checklist for Marrying a Local |
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| FDNY wrote: |
Here is a common sense checklist you might want to consider before you tie the knot with a local. Obviously it is a generalization and does not cover all the bases. However, this checklist is pretty much the same criteria a local would use. This checklist comes under the, "Don't Judge a Book by it's Cover." And since most of us can't even read Korean we really can't judge the quality of what we are buying.
1/ At least the same educational level as yourself.
2/ Parents who have achieved at least average net worth.
3/ No history of mental illness in the family.
4/ ALL siblings are gainfully employed.
5/ No outstanding debt. (Easily checked)
6/ Decent job preferably in banking, government or chaebol. |
I completely agree. Obviously love, respect and friendship should be included.
I particularly like the part about the family, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
I also think this should apply to any spouse and not just a Korean.
Now the thing about outstanding debts, I think it should be net worth like the parents. Also if they are young, you can look into potential a little, best method is to just date for awhile before and see how they manage debt. |
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TL
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess marrying a local with divorced parents who are financially unstable is a no no? |
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