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For those in Korea, this country isn't that bad
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:46 pm    Post subject: For those in Korea, this country isn't that bad Reply with quote

Half Of Recent US College Graduates Unemployed Or Underemployed

In a stark reminder of how the recession has damaged the employment prospects of young Americans, an Associated Press analysis found Monday that more than half of recent college graduates are out of work or toiling in unskilled jobs.

According to the AP's analysis of government data, about 53.6 percent of Americans who have bachelor's degrees and are 25 and under are unemployed or hold lower-wage jobs, like waiting tables or serving as office receptionists, that don't require a degree. That translates to about 1.5 million young people who have not, or not yet, gotten the payoff they expected from a college education.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/332153/20120423/unemployment-college-young-americans-under-25-student.htm
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The Sultan of Seoul



Joined: 17 Apr 2012
Location: right... behind.. YOU

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No joke. I have a rewarding job, live in a 5 room apt and have just paid my rent and still cleared over two thousand dollars. I teach 16 hrs a week. Life aint bad.
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jeremydc808



Joined: 16 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, Hawaii has a horrible job market. I am trying my best to stay in the education field before I head to Korea in Dec.

Funny thing is, there are teaching jobs that want a Masters + 3 years of experience just for 12$ an hr. Not to mention the COL here.

I wish I could leave now !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fosterman



Joined: 16 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use to clear 1000 bucks a week as a bartender, and I wasn't even working in a famous bar, some of the my friends working in clubs, or hotel lounges use to make 2K a week, you'd be surprised how quick the tips add up.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also hear bartenders get a lot of chicks, too.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sultan of Seoul wrote:
No joke. I have a rewarding job, live in a 5 room apt and have just paid my rent and still cleared over two thousand dollars. I teach 16 hrs a week. Life aint bad.


Sounds pretty nice. You got that 5 room apt. to yourself? 16 teaching hours seems good. How many hours are your required to be at work per week?
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would amend the title of the thread to say that this country isn't that bad if you're an English-speaking graduate from overseas. Korean grads are having their own troubles here. http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/11/30/2011113000657.html

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One in seven people in their 20s earn less than W1 million a month, according to National Health Insurance data.

Out of 2.4 million employed people in their 20s, 15 percent or 360,000 people -- 150,000 men and 210,000 women -- earn less than W1 million (US$1=W1,154).

Most of them are employed part-time or on fixed-term contracts.

Only 220,000 people in the age group earn W2 million or more per month. Since there are 1.75 million four-year university graduates in the group, this means only one in eight 20-somethings with university degree has a job that pays a decent income.

If these stats are to be believed, only one in eight college grads in their 20s makes 2 million a month or more, a salary nearly any NET can make in Korea.
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soomin



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: For those in Korea, this country isn't that bad Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:

According to the AP's analysis of government data, about 53.6 percent of Americans who have bachelor's degrees and are 25 and under are unemployed or hold lower-wage jobs, like waiting tables or serving as office receptionists, that don't require a degree.


I graduated 3 years ago and my friends back home are still working at clothing stores and such... one of my friends got a job with what she wanted, but it didn't hurt that the owner of the company was a family friend...

But, at least they have a degree... when I was in college, the future seemed bright... but I can't imagine people in college now looking at the news and seeing stats like these, and jobs that still want a degree... smh
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Lazio



Joined: 15 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One in seven people in their 20s earn less than W1 million a month, according to National Health Insurance data.

Out of 2.4 million employed people in their 20s, 15 percent or 360,000 people -- 150,000 men and 210,000 women -- earn less than W1 million (US$1=W1,154).

Most of them are employed part-time or on fixed-term contracts.

Only 220,000 people in the age group earn W2 million or more per month. Since there are 1.75 million four-year university graduates in the group, this means only one in eight 20-somethings with university degree has a job that pays a decent income.


It also must be stated that most people here start to work at a regular salary job when they are 25-27 years old. So that means about 3-4 years in their �twenties� which makes that a starter salary.

And let�s not forget about the facts that a large portion of graduates are holding a completely useless degree and/or are completely clueless about what they studied.
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lazio wrote:
And let�s not forget about the facts that a large portion of graduates are holding a completely useless degree and/or are completely clueless about what they studied.

...hasn't that always been the case for just about everywhere? Wink
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:
Lazio wrote:
And let�s not forget about the facts that a large portion of graduates are holding a completely useless degree and/or are completely clueless about what they studied.

...hasn't that always been the case for just about everywhere? Wink


Indeed!

Veritable legions of social science graduates are churned out by Universities each year. It is not like the market needs a thousand Historians per year.... Wink
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The Sultan of Seoul



Joined: 17 Apr 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
The Cosmic Hum wrote:
Lazio wrote:
And let�s not forget about the facts that a large portion of graduates are holding a completely useless degree and/or are completely clueless about what they studied.

...hasn't that always been the case for just about everywhere? Wink


Indeed!

Veritable legions of social science graduates are churned out by Universities each year. It is not like the market needs a thousand Historians per year.... Wink


Surely a history or Sociology degree would impart upon the graduate transferable skills...

@bryddogs - yes to myself. Be at work 30 hrs a week and only 16 of teaching. Hakwan. Won't name it.


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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:
Lazio wrote:
And let�s not forget about the facts that a large portion of graduates are holding a completely useless degree and/or are completely clueless about what they studied.

...hasn't that always been the case for just about everywhere? Wink


So true. Or, in my case got a specialized degree (interned in the field) and had no desire whatsoever to be in that field. What a waste of time.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Veritable legions of social science graduates are churned out by Universities each year. It is not like the market needs a thousand Historians per year....


Because of course the only point of a university degree is to train someone to do a future job. People who study history at university do so because they all want to be historians. Rolling Eyes
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know plenty of social science majors who are doing just fine. The key is to not study social sciences at a crappy school.
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