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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: S. Koreans struggle with sky-high wedding costs Reply with quote

S. Koreans struggle with sky-high wedding costs

SEOUL--The Beatles may have sung �all you need is love,� but in South Korea a couple wanting to get married also needs cash, a lot of it � nearly US$200,000, or more than four times the average annual income. The sky-high costs stem from a combination of cultural traditions that mandate expensive pre-wedding gifts between families, such as mink coats and diamond rings, along with a decades-old custom that the groom must fork over money to provide a home.

The average cost for a wedding in 2011 rose about 270 percent from 1999, while the inflation during the same period rose 45.5 percent. Total costs far outstripped the average annual household income at around 48.3 million Korean won (US$42,400), according to government data.

Thus, young couples seeking to unite in wedded bliss are forced to borrow from parents or take out loans. With candid discussions of money a cultural taboo in Korea, many are reluctant to speak about the high cost of exchanging vows.

�Korean society is very tightly knit, and people here are very concerned about how others view them,� said Harris H. Kim, assistant professor of sociology at Ewha Womans University.

�The wedding works as a status symbol, like a marker of where you stand in the society,� he added.

One 27-year-old woman working in the financial industry, who like many others asked to remain anonymous, said her parents paid nearly 90 percent of her 140 million won (US$122,900) wedding costs.

�We had to use our parents' money, which probably came from the sacrifice of their own retirement savings,� she said.

A 30-year-old kindergarten teacher who would only give her surname, Kim, said her husband, whose income is 40 million won, took out a loan for 45 million won in addition to financial aid from their parents for a wedding with 600 guests. The couple didn't know half the people, who were their parents' friends.

Gift-giving also takes a hefty chunk of the cash. Traditionally, the bride and groom's families have exchanged gifts � good silk for new clothes and simple jewelry � as a way of thanking the other family. But these days the silk has turned into fur or luxury handbags, while the jewelry has morphed into a full set of gems.

But the biggest part of the wedding budget comes from soaring housing prices, according to data from couple.net, a matchmaking company. The money spent by happy couples for housing last year was 2.5 times higher than in 2000, making up nearly 70 percent of the total cost of a wedding.

�I've had many customers in the last five years who directly asked for a spouse who can at least afford to rent a house,� said Sungmi Lee, a manager at couple.net.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/life/offbeat/2012/04/29/339400/S-Koreans.htm
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northway



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That kindergarten teacher is making some serious coin for that position.
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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
That kindergarten teacher is making some serious coin for that position.


That sentence is funky. Are they talking about the husband's income?
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motiontodismiss



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The girl that spent $122k on her wedding shouldn't be working in the financial services industry, if her salary is less than $250k and didn't pay cash. What the hell is she thinking????!?!?!?!

I don't care if it's your parents' money, unless you're a pseudo-chaebol, you shouldn't be spending that much money on a wedding.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajosshi wrote:
northway wrote:
That kindergarten teacher is making some serious coin for that position.


That sentence is funky. Are they talking about the husband's income?


I actually misread it, they're definitely talking about the husband. It's not the sentence but the context, interviewing one spouse about the other's income without mentioning the interviewee's income. Is it assumed that most people would be able to ballpark that she makes 1-2 million a month?
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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

motiontodismiss wrote:
The girl that spent $122k on her wedding shouldn't be working in the financial services industry, if her salary is less than $250k and didn't pay cash. What the hell is she thinking????!?!?!?!
I don't care if it's your parents' money, unless you're a pseudo-chaebol, you shouldn't be spending that much money on a wedding.


she ain't.

they're going to be up ddong creek.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a daft article because it talks about the cost of getting married then includes the cost of a home in the total. They are two separate things. Some people get married and stay living with their parents, I dare say there are some people who get married who already have a home. They also don't mention the fact that whoever pays for the wedding can recuperate most of the money they spend on the wedding ceremony from the guests' money envelopes. The only real point they're making is about the foolish custom of over spending on pointless jewels and rip off bags.
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byrddogs



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was a huge reason that I never married my gf in Korea. Her family was quite wealthy (mine does fine). I can't imagine what they would have expected. I'm happily married in China now. We didn't have a wedding (just went to the marriage office). Her father had a wedding party where all of the guests attending gave him money. Her brother and sister gave us money (nominal compared to that bs above). I like this system better, lol.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
It's a daft article because it talks about the cost of getting married then includes the cost of a home in the total. They are two separate things. Some people get married and stay living with their parents, I dare say there are some people who get married who already have a home. They also don't mention the fact that whoever pays for the wedding can recuperate most of the money they spend on the wedding ceremony from the guests' money envelopes. The only real point they're making is about the foolish custom of over spending on pointless jewels and rip off bags.


Yeah, it's a nice overview for people who are totally unfamiliar with the system, and I think it offers a decent explanation in the end, but it makes some sensationalist statements along the way. You can't argue with the basic premise though: Koreans do have some rather expensive expectations of them prior to marriage.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

motiontodismiss wrote:
The girl that spent $122k on her wedding shouldn't be working in the financial services industry, if her salary is less than $250k and didn't pay cash. What the hell is she thinking????!?!?!?!

I don't care if it's your parents' money, unless you're a pseudo-chaebol, you shouldn't be spending that much money on a wedding.


That article is somewhat misleading. If 70% of the cost of the wedding went towards housing, then she really spent more like $37,000 on her wedding. Then you factor in all the money they receive from wedding guests and it's really not too bad. In fact, the wedding itself could conceivably be completely paid for.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:
The girl that spent $122k on her wedding shouldn't be working in the financial services industry, if her salary is less than $250k and didn't pay cash. What the hell is she thinking????!?!?!?!

I don't care if it's your parents' money, unless you're a pseudo-chaebol, you shouldn't be spending that much money on a wedding.


That article is somewhat misleading. If 70% of the cost of the wedding went towards housing, then she really spent more like $37,000 on her wedding. Then you factor in all the money they receive from wedding guests and it's really not too bad. In fact, the wedding itself could conceivably be completely paid for.


sounds like a business.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about paying for fake guests?
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/10/117_22416.html

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Part-time guests usually arrive at wedding parlors about 40 minutes before the ceremony. They memorize the personal information of the bride at the wedding, such as her name, age, school career, and family relations. Someone in charge of guests checks their attire and gives them envelops of money, prepared by the bride in advance so that they can submit them as congratulatory money to the bride at the parlor entrance.

The fake friends, however, do not have themselves photographed after the ceremony in order not to remain forever in the couple's wedding album. They gather at the rear of the wedding parlor, and the leader distributes envelops to them again ― this time containing their payment. Saying goodbye, they part.



Why is this happening?

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There are several reasons why people seek part-time guests at weddings ― the main one is they have few friends available.

``People don't want to look as if they don't have close ties with friends. Also, a bride seeks fake guests when the number of her guests is apparently smaller than the bridegroom's, and vice versa, as the number of guests is often regarded as the family's power,'' said Lee Mi-young, director of Hagaek Friends, one of dozens of such part-time wedding guest ``rental'' companies easily found on the Internet.

About 70 percent of the clients are for brides: Women tend not to have many friends if several years have passed since their graduation and if they have not had a job, while men, having jobs, have many colleagues at work, Lee said.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: S. Koreans struggle with sky-high wedding costs Reply with quote

'With candid discussions of money a cultural taboo in Korea, many are reluctant to speak about the high cost of exchanging vows. '

I've had staff members tell me to the won how much I should be giving another member of the faculty for events. I've found they can be extremely frank and candid when asking money for these types of social events.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: S. Koreans struggle with sky-high wedding costs Reply with quote

Kimchifart wrote:
'With candid discussions of money a cultural taboo in Korea, many are reluctant to speak about the high cost of exchanging vows. '

I've had staff members tell me to the won how much I should be giving another member of the faculty for events. I've found they can be extremely frank and candid when asking money for these types of social events.


They write it down when you enter the wedding hall and hand over your envelope. You'd better believe they know how that 30,000 is what I give each time. Maybe that's why I haven't been invited to too many weddings, lately. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

people just don't know what they want, most people are just confused and go through life confused on what really it is they want.
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