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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Not all Emarts had to close this past Sunday. What happened was that consumers just drove to the next Emart over which became even more insanely crowded than usual for a Sunday. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Something tells me that the big boys have secretly backed this because they know that this will just mean they are busier on Saturdays and Mondays and can reduce operating costs.
As an aside, for all those people who are so anti-mom & pop and are all about the bottom line. They should start getting Wal-Mart-esqe ESL operations going. Preferably stocked with either cheap Filipinos or Indians toiling out to room after room of 5-10 students for that (individual touch), or featuring NETs conducting classes to auditoriums of hundreds. All for a much cheaper price than Korean consumers are forced to pay now for their hagwon lessons. |
I'm not opposed to policies that help small businesses, but this tactic gives new meaning to the term ham-fisted. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Personally, I don't care who "the money is passed up to" so long as I'm getting my product cheaper than at the so-called mom & pop stores. |
I couldn't disagree more strongly. |
Why? I'm the consumer. The best for me is that I get my product at the best price for me. The big boxes aren't doing anything illegal. If anything, they're serving the area's consumers more efficiently and more effectively.
And "the money" that you're complaining about going up is going up to people doing their jobs. Don't you expect to get paid for your work? |
Do whatever you want. I have no problem with where people go. It's their free will. I just have a problem with the idea that it doesn't matter where you spend your money. "Personally, I don't care who "the money is passed up to" so long as I'm getting my product cheaper"
Come on? I don't think you really believe that, do you?. & there's nothing necessarily wrong with the big boxes. I use them, but never exclusively, even if they are half the price, I would always throw some business to the Mom&Pop's. It's a largely futile gesture, but it's the responsible thing to do imo. There are people that would never shop at the big boxes. I'm not that extreme. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Something tells me that the big boys have secretly backed this because they know that this will just mean they are busier on Saturdays and Mondays and can reduce operating costs.
As an aside, for all those people who are so anti-mom & pop and are all about the bottom line. They should start getting Wal-Mart-esqe ESL operations going. Preferably stocked with either cheap Filipinos or Indians toiling out to room after room of 5-10 students for that (individual touch), or featuring NETs conducting classes to auditoriums of hundreds. All for a much cheaper price than Korean consumers are forced to pay now for their hagwon lessons. |
Great idea. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and start such a business. Let us know how it works out for you. |
What do you really think you're that much more of a commodity and economic necessity compared to mom & pop? Do you really think that the ESL industry couldn't get turned into something that causes wages to fall and for things to absorbed by a few mammoth corporations who treat it like a business and not like education?
And where will all these pro-E-Mart types and anti- Mom & Pops be then, demanding protectionism and cursing the people for "betraying" them.
Now, I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with E-Mart or that Mom & Pop aren't obsolete, just that fate has a way of coming around and biting people with attitudes like that. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I think there should be a law that bans highly qualified, competitive people from applying to jobs for a certain period so it's fair.
Why stop there, let's keep smart students from studying for certain periods or ban them from a few tests so the grades will be even. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| fermentation wrote: |
I think there should be a law that bans highly qualified, competitive people from applying to jobs for a certain period so it's fair.
Why stop there, let's keep smart students from studying for certain periods or ban them from a few tests so the grades will be even. |
A law against getting a job because you were able to pay the tuition would be a better analogy. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| pegasus64128 wrote: |
| I just have a problem with the idea that it doesn't matter where you spend your money. |
Ah, I see the problem. That's not what I said. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| pegasus64128 wrote: |
| I just have a problem with the idea that it doesn't matter where you spend your money. |
Ah, I see the problem. That's not what I said. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
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| Personally, I don't care who "the money is passed up to" so long as I'm getting my product cheaper than at the so-called mom & pop stores. |
I couldn't disagree more strongly. |
Why? I'm the consumer. The best for me is that I get my product at the best price for me. The big boxes aren't doing anything illegal. If anything, they're serving the area's consumers more efficiently and more effectively.
And "the money" that you're complaining about going up is going up to people doing their jobs. Don't you expect to get paid for your work? |
All I can do in rebuttal to this is to link to this article.
The tl;dr version is that the investor expectations + consumer expectations leads to exploitation of workers lower down on the totem pole in the name of the profit motive. If you're okay with that then so be it, but I'm not.
If big box stores are paying appreciable wages across the board and treating their employees decently enough, then great, suck business out of mom and pop stores all you want. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Looks to me that this is all about players playing on markets or indeed off them. I don't know much about stocks but apparently E-Mart is in contention for stock market listing in the Kospi 200 shakeup later this year, so maybe it's about that. I have no interest in that so I won't be looking into it. Lotte mart is closer to my place anyway. I think it's asset devaluation to keep E-Mart off Kospi. It might be to help stabilize the Korean economy against market contagion etc. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Does Costco count as these large marts? They are kind of different. So, will they close too. I'd hate to travel all that distance to another city just to find out they're closed too. Man, that would suck!! |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Does Costco count as these large marts? They are kind of different. So, will they close too. I'd hate to travel all that distance to another city just to find out they're closed too. Man, that would suck!! |
They don't seem worried about Costco.
I heard grumbling from Koreans about this all week. Let's see how long it lasts, in an election year. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:42 am Post subject: hi |
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| Looks like it didn't last very long, because the Lotte Mart in Suwan of Gwangju was open today lol |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:04 am Post subject: Re: hi |
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| Looks like it didn't last very long, because the Lotte Mart in Suwan of Gwangju was open today lol |
No. The rule as it stands applies to the 2nd & 4th sundays of the month.
Today was the 5th one. |
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crsandus
Joined: 05 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Does Costco count as these large marts? They are kind of different. So, will they close too. I'd hate to travel all that distance to another city just to find out they're closed too. Man, that would suck!! |
On the Costco website it states that there is legislation being considered for closing 2x/month by the local 구s. If Costco closes on the 2nd and 4th Sundays... things would get really unpleasant. |
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