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Ko-Am singer turns down US producer. Says, "I am Korean
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fosterman

Joined: 16 Nov 2011

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:21 pm Post subject:

flakfizer wrote:

I'm not sure why so many people think she wouldn't have a shot in the States. A producer thought seemed to think she had a shot, and as far as Asian-Americans making it, did everyone forget Far East Movement? She was born and raised in the States. I'm pretty sure she can sing in English. Mainstream America probably isn't going to go out and buy a CD of songs sung in Korean, but why wouldn't they buy music that they just plain like regardless of the ethnicity of the singer?

hey, this happens everyday. come on we know this. but it's mostly us buying foreign music.
she is Asian. what genre will she sing? RNB? hip hop? these are 90% reserved for black musicians, only the odd sensation has broken into this genre and climbed their way to the top, eminem , and maybe some others.

alternative rock? this genre is for whites

pop? now ok this would be her best bet.
maybe something like what the latin American artists do.
they make albums in Spanish, enter into the Spanish charts, go to the Latin grammys, are known as latin American singers, and then cross over with an all English pop album.
she ain't gonna sing country.

for all we know, this producer might of been Korean/American, and wanted to use her in Korea. many producers look for kyopos.

rchristo10

Joined: 14 Jul 2009

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject:

transmogrifier wrote:

rchristo10 wrote:

Opportunist

Unlike every other pop star on the planet, right?

Nope. Just like them; repeat: OPPORTUNIST.

I see no need for further argument. Wink

1927

Joined: 02 Oct 2011

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:59 am Post subject:

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She says an American music producer approached her about a record deal, but she turned down the offer. "My parents and grandparents, who went to the U.S. from Korea, always told me that I am Korean and made me speak Korean at home," Ailee said. "I am Korean, so I naturally wanted to go to Korea to sing� I'm big fan of K-pop so I formed a band with other Korean-Americans and we performed here and there."

Could be the American producer was just a sleazy, power-tripping LA king wanna be with no real connections at all. Why wouldn't she turn him down?

Could be that she was talking herself up to sound good in the press and never really received any offer at all.

Could be that the part in quotation marks had no relation at all to the turned down offer, but that's just the way it was edited by a somewhat nationalistic publisher.

Who the hell knows?

The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:37 am Post subject:

1927 wrote:

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Quite right.

She can sing well enough and is attractive enough...she should do well here in Korea...best of luck to her.

warmachinenkorea

Joined: 12 Oct 2008

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject:

flakfizer wrote:

It's about relating. I'm from TN, Memphis and Nashville are 2 hours apart on "The Music Highway" I40. People, at least most everyone I know, want to relate to music. Music is just more than something to bob your head to for a lot of people I know. It is huge and important way of life.

Memphis is famous for 2 things, BBQ and music, more specifically Rock n' Roll and Blues. Rap is huge in the underground there too. It's a gritty, dirty, old city that is dangerous but has a huge attitude.

Nashville is the Country Music capital of the world. I know most people don't think Country Music is music but you if you live in The South you can't deny the impact it has on generations of people. It is a huge money making industry that directly or indirectly influences more musicians than most people will admit.

This is why a person ethnicity is important to others. Not because they are racist but because it's difficult to relate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol

This is odd but interesting.

Since the show's inception in 2002, seven of the ten Idol winners, including its first five, have come from the Southern United States.[74] The three exceptions are: Jordin Sparks, who hails from Arizona; David Cook, hails from Missouri (which is considered part of the "Upland South",[75] and was born in Houston and living in Tulsa at the time of his audition); and Lee DeWyze from Illinois. A large number of other notable finalists during the series' run have also hailed from the American South, including Clay Aiken, Kellie Pickler and Chris Daughtry, who are all from North Carolina.[74] In 2012, an analysis of the 131 contestants who have appeared in the finals of all seasons of the show up to that point found that 48% have some connection to the Southern United States.[76]
Data from Nielsen SoundScan, a music-sales tracking service, showed that of the 47 million CDs sold by Idol contestants through January 2010, 85 percent were by contestants with ties to the American South.[74] Theories given for the success of Southerners on Idol have been: more versatility with musical genres, as the Southern U.S. is home to several music genre scenes; not having as many opportunities to break into the pop music business; and the strong heritage of music and singing, which is especially notable in the Bible Belt, where it's in church that many people get their start in public singing.[74][77] At the time of the 2004 finals, which pitted North Carolina's Fantasia Barrino against Georgia's Diana DeGarmo, their Southern character, or character appealing to the South, was cited as reason for their success.[78]
The show itself is particularly popular in the Southern United States, with households in the Southeastern United States 10% more likely to watch American Idol during the eighth season in 2009, and those in the East Central region, such as Kentucky, were 16 percent more likely to tune into the series.[74] When asked about the appeal of Southern contestants, season five winner Taylor Hicks, from the state of Alabama said, "People in the South have a lot of pride ... So, they're adamant about supporting the contestants who do well from their state or region."[74]

This girl is trying to be successful. Seems like she is trying to relate with something with her music. And her music would spread all over the peninsula rather than a small region in the U.S.

Teelo

Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:31 am Post subject:

fosterman wrote:

ahahahaha, dude, Stellar, and bic are half Maori and half chinese.
but they are Kiwis bro. through and through. they don't go around saying they are chinese,

Thus the "Wait damn" in my post.

fermentation

Joined: 22 Jun 2009

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject:

This girl is already active in Korea. This remark might be a marketing ploy to Korean fans.

Swampfox10mm

Joined: 24 Mar 2011

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:01 pm Post subject:

Warmachine, keep in mind that this peninsula is about the size of Indiana. I still think speading across a small portion of the USA might be more than that. And she won't have to do naughty things with Chaebol execs in secret locations.

pugwall

Joined: 22 Oct 2006

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 7:04 am Post subject:

The Sultan of Seoul wrote:

Teelo wrote:

Does someone count as an "asian singer" if they're western born/raised with a perfect NZ/UK/USA accent and whom I didn't even know was asian until I saw their music video?

I was classing both those from Asian countries or those with Asian ehtnicity born in western countries.

Just remewmbered another one - Apache Indian. Here come de hotsteppah, murerah, the original gangsta, murdera!

But yeah, they don't seem that well represented, unlike whites and blacks. Why?

I really am curious, I doubt as a group they are dramatically less tallented. Perhaps less likely to pursue that kind of career?

Even on tv and in Movies in the west, whites and blacks are far more prevalent. Lucy leiu and Michelle Wei are doing okay, but I cannot think of any others, oh SanjaY from Eastenders, but that was a while back. Rita from Corrie, Chang on Community, ummm....

What IS up with that? maybe less people from Asian ethicities going that route in the first place?

Apache Indian sang Boomshackalack.

Ini Kamoze sang 'Here comes the Jamaican.

warmachinenkorea

Joined: 12 Oct 2008

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject:

Swampfox10mm wrote:

Warmachine, keep in mind that this peninsula is about the size of Indiana. I still think speading across a small portion of the USA might be more than that.

And she won't have to do naughty things with Chaebol execs in secret locations.

And the peninsula has 50 million people and a small portion of the US might have 5.

KimchiNinja

Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject:

To state the obvious, anyone can call themselves a producer, and record deals in the USA post music industry crash are hardly attractive. What are we even talking about here, people do what they feel like doing; why talk about it on the internet.

Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject:

KimchiNinja wrote:

To state the obvious, anyone can call themselves a producer, and record deals in the USA post music industry crash are hardly attractive. What are we even talking about here, people do what they feel like doing; why talk about it on the internet.

Because for some mysterious reason, normally rational people get rabidly nationalistic when it comes to popular music.

Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject:

"I am Korean" Someone watched 300 the night before the conversation. "I am Sparta!"

The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject:

Underwaterbob wrote:

KimchiNinja wrote:

Because for some mysterious reason, normally rational people get rabidly nationalistic when it comes to popular music.

or...
'Because for some mysterious reason, rabidly nationalistic people get even more rabidly nationalistic when it comes to popular music.'

KimchiNinja

Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject:

The Cosmic Hum wrote:

Underwaterbob wrote:

KimchiNinja wrote:

Because for some mysterious reason, normally rational people get rabidly nationalistic when it comes to popular music.

or...
'Because for some mysterious reason, rabidly nationalistic people get even more rabidly nationalistic when it comes to popular music.'

As the Koreans would say; "Kkkkkk" Wink

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