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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
Firstly, one has to consider that Ahmadinejad is not the be all end all of Iranian politics, which is composed of different competing factions.
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Your claim was this:
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Israel's deputy PM admits Iran didn't threaten to wipe Israel off the map
That was one myth that the hawks kept propagating. |
The issue was who said what, not what was meant or who was a figurehead.
But you're right he didn't say Israel must be wiped off the map, he said the OCCUPYING REGIME (meaning Israel) must be wiped off the map.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2006/05/the_cole_report.html
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Our dear Imam [Khomeini] said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. � Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. � For over fifty years the world oppressor tried to give legitimacy to the occupying regime, and it has taken measures in this direction to stabilize it.
Ahmadinejad then denounced the recent Israeli-Palestinian negotiations over Gaza as a sellout and added, "If we get through this brief period successfully, the path of eliminating the occupying regime will be easy and down-hill."
Not even Professor Cole will dispute that, in the above passages, the term "occupying regime" means Israel and the term "world oppressor" stands for the United States. (The title of the conference, incidentally, was The World Without Zionism.) In fact, Khomeini's injunctions are referred to twice. Quite possibly, "wiped off the map" is slightly too free a translation of what he originally said, and what it is mandatory for his followers to repeat. So, I give it below, in Persian and in English, and let you be the judge:
Esrail ghiyam-e mossalahaane bar zed-e mamaalek-e eslami nemoodeh ast va bar doval va mamaalek-eeslami ghal-o-gham aan lazem ast. |
Here's the link and the translation of his speech. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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From the above link.
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| In the early '90s, I can remember seeing, in the areas around Baalbek in Lebanon that were dominated by Hezbollah and Amal, large posters of the by-then-late Khomeini embellished (in English) with the slogan, "Israel Must Be Completely Destroyed!" |
http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/images/1205826451sa.jpg |
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