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Nismo
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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what is it with floor stomping anyway here???
its a very easy thing to walk fairly lightly barefoot or with socks |
Some people are 'heavy walkers' because they walk on their heals. My daughter only weighs about 18 KG, but she sounds like an elephant stampeding across the Serengeti when she walks from room to room. She's not doing it intentionally - it's just the way she walks. The heels of her shoes are always the first thing to go. |
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soulofseoul
Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| but Im sure as she gets older, shell be lighter on her feet compared to when she was younger running around etc. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Plus Korea being a shame-based society...if you realize you are making an nuisance of yourself to the neighbors you are very unlikely to continue on...if you live there and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
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I know you live in the countryside, UM, so maybe it's different out there. But it's a totally different story in Seoul. Even calling attention to rude/obnoxious behaviour seems to encourage the offender and in the end you will be seen as the rude one for even mentioning it most of the time. I came home last night to my across the hall neighbour standing in the hallway scream-talking with his gf who was right in front of him, just opening and slamming his door, like he was fidgeting. I just stood there and glared at him and eventually he noticed me looking and just went inside, but 10 minutes later he was back at it. Noise seems to comfort Koreans, and they seem to be more immune to it after growing up around it. That's my take, anyway.
There also seems to be a weird Korean trend of moving furniture late at night. I'm not really sure what to make of this, but I've spoken to enough people and have experienced it enough myself to see the pattern. Very strange. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I have no idea if there's more shame in the countryside, but in Seoul, if someone's determined to be an arse...calling them on it rarely changes things. In fact, I see it escalating things more often.
| Nismo wrote: |
| soulofseoul wrote: |
what is it with floor stomping anyway here???
its a very easy thing to walk fairly lightly barefoot or with socks |
Some people are 'heavy walkers' because they walk on their heals. My daughter only weighs about 18 KG, but she sounds like an elephant stampeding across the Serengeti when she walks from room to room. She's not doing it intentionally - it's just the way she walks. The heels of her shoes are always the first thing to go. |
Yup, I'm the heaviest in my place, but the quietest. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Plus Korea being a shame-based society...if you realize you are making an nuisance of yourself to the neighbors you are very unlikely to continue on...if you live there and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
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I know you live in the countryside, UM, so maybe it's different out there. But it's a totally different story in Seoul. Even calling attention to rude/obnoxious behaviour seems to encourage the offender and in the end you will be seen as the rude one for even mentioning it most of the time. I came home last night to my across the hall neighbour standing in the hallway scream-talking with his gf who was right in front of him, just opening and slamming his door, like he was fidgeting. I just stood there and glared at him and eventually he noticed me looking and just went inside, but 10 minutes later he was back at it. Noise seems to comfort Koreans, and they seem to be more immune to it after growing up around it. That's my take, anyway.
There also seems to be a weird Korean trend of moving furniture late at night. I'm not really sure what to make of this, but I've spoken to enough people and have experienced it enough myself to see the pattern. Very strange. |
Well I've never lived in Seoul so I'll take your word for it. Then again do remember that in small towns everyone knows who everyone else is...so I'd say there's more "shame" involved then if you are an anonymous neighbor living a floor up or down in some apartement building among 12 million other people. Might have something to do with it.
And yeah the furniture moving trend IS annoying...what's worse is when they follow it with vaccuming... what, that can't wait until the morning? |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
There also seems to be a weird Korean trend of moving furniture late at night. I'm not really sure what to make of this, but I've spoken to enough people and have experienced it enough myself to see the pattern. Very strange. |
Aren't they just moving the chairs out the way so they can put down their bedding?
It used to be a nightly ritul when I slept on a yo.
thats why its called the land of morning calm. Becuse most Koreans go to bed late.
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| Close the door quietly. The noise bothers your neighbors |
The door slams I've kinda gotten used to.
Its the talking.
Those piercing voices that seem to be at 20 decibels even if they are two blocks away.
I have stood on mountains and heard koreans conversations from the valley below as if they were standing next to me.
Koreans can probably be heard in space. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Plus Korea being a shame-based society...if you realize you are making an nuisance of yourself to the neighbors you are very unlikely to continue on...if you live there and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
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I know you live in the countryside, UM, so maybe it's different out there. But it's a totally different story in Seoul. Even calling attention to rude/obnoxious behaviour seems to encourage the offender and in the end you will be seen as the rude one for even mentioning it most of the time. I came home last night to my across the hall neighbour standing in the hallway scream-talking with his gf who was right in front of him, just opening and slamming his door, like he was fidgeting. I just stood there and glared at him and eventually he noticed me looking and just went inside, but 10 minutes later he was back at it. Noise seems to comfort Koreans, and they seem to be more immune to it after growing up around it. That's my take, anyway.
There also seems to be a weird Korean trend of moving furniture late at night. I'm not really sure what to make of this, but I've spoken to enough people and have experienced it enough myself to see the pattern. Very strange. |
Well I've never lived in Seoul so I'll take your word for it. Then again do remember that in small towns everyone knows who everyone else is...so I'd say there's more "shame" involved then if you are an anonymous neighbor living a floor up or down in some apartement building among 12 million other people. Might have something to do with it.
And yeah the furniture moving trend IS annoying...what's worse is when they follow it with vaccuming... what, that can't wait until the morning? |
Well, to be fair that's the case in most big cities vs small towns across the globe. Add to that the fact that most of us live in crappy officetel situations with college kids, ladies of the night and other upstanding members of society and I think we get a clearer picture. But I do still believe Koreans just tend to have a higher tolerance for noise pollution than the average Westerner. I used to work nights back home and had to sleep in a very active building on the ground floor with my window facing the courtyard and parking lot. Nothing compared to what I deal with now at 2am in Seoul. But this city offers infinitely more than the one I was at that previous time, so it's all about trade offs I guess. Or maybe that's why so many Koreans drink soju every night, to get a good sleep. haha. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
There also seems to be a weird Korean trend of moving furniture late at night. I'm not really sure what to make of this, but I've spoken to enough people and have experienced it enough myself to see the pattern. Very strange. |
Aren't they just moving the chairs out the way so they can put down their bedding?
It used to be a nightly ritul when I slept on a yo.
thats why its called the land of morning calm. Becuse most Koreans go to bed late.
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That's what I used to believe, too. But it doesn't take an hour or two to move a chair. Back and forth. Scraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaping against the ground. And I can tell it's different pieces of furniture by the weight and where it starts and stops. I almost want to break in and install a nanny cam just to understand. I'm not angry or upset anymore, just really baffled.
And the stomping. Back and forth, back and forth. My friend and I were mocking it the other day in my place (there's a business below me, it was closed) and we really had to stamp our heels down just to get the desired affect. And we've both got maybe 80 lbs on the guy above me. I just don't understand how someone can walk like that naturally. Every Saturday morning I get what I call the Saturday Parade upstairs (it could happen every morning, but I'm usually at work). It starts around 9am and goes till about noon. Just thumping back and forth, back and forth, like a, well, like a parade. And I'm pretty sure it's only one person because it's never two footsteps at once. Just one. Back and forth. Back and forth. For three hours. Sometimes I feel like I'm on Candid Camera and they're just waiting for me to finally break.
I've been around some Koreans (and non-Koreans, but mostly Koreans) who stamp around like that in front of me. It's like being at the movies with a friend who keeps talking. Awkward. "Oh, uh, you should...you should not...just...could you use the balls of your....You know what, I'll get that cup off the table, just have a seat."
It just baffles me, as it seems sometimes Koreans will choose a harder way to do things as long as it makes more noise. Like dragging a cheap chair across the room instead of just picking it up. JUST PICK IT UP! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
There also seems to be a weird Korean trend of moving furniture late at night. I'm not really sure what to make of this, but I've spoken to enough people and have experienced it enough myself to see the pattern. Very strange. |
Aren't they just moving the chairs out the way so they can put down their bedding?
It used to be a nightly ritul when I slept on a yo.
thats why its called the land of morning calm. Becuse most Koreans go to bed late.
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That's what I used to believe, too. But it doesn't take an hour or two to move a chair. Back and forth. Scraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaping against the ground. And I can tell it's different pieces of furniture by the weight and where it starts and stops. I almost want to break in and install a nanny cam just to understand. I'm not angry or upset anymore, just really baffled.
And the stomping. Back and forth, back and forth. My friend and I were mocking it the other day in my place (there's a business below me, it was closed) and we really had to stamp our heels down just to get the desired affect. And we've both got maybe 80 lbs on the guy above me. I just don't understand how someone can walk like that naturally. Every Saturday morning I get what I call the Saturday Parade upstairs (it could happen every morning, but I'm usually at work). It starts around 9am and goes till about noon. Just thumping back and forth, back and forth, like a, well, like a parade. And I'm pretty sure it's only one person because it's never two footsteps at once. Just one. Back and forth. Back and forth. For three hours. Sometimes I feel like I'm on Candid Camera and they're just waiting for me to finally break.
I've been around some Koreans (and non-Koreans, but mostly Koreans) who stamp around like that in front of me. It's like being at the movies with a friend who keeps talking. Awkward. "Oh, uh, you should...you should not...just...could you use the balls of your....You know what, I'll get that cup off the table, just have a seat."
It just baffles me, as it seems sometimes Koreans will choose a harder way to do things as long as it makes more noise. Like dragging a cheap chair across the room instead of just picking it up. JUST PICK IT UP! |
The stomping is pretty bad. But what is worse is when you have (at least) five college age girls living above you and EVERY morning at 7 am run down the concrete stairs in their high heels. You can hear the clicking starting from three stories above you and by the time it hits your floor, it sounds like a horse (wearing horseshoes) tap dancing in your stairwell.
On the bright side...I never needed an alarm clock to wake me up.
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Plus Korea being a shame-based society...if you realize you are making an nuisance of yourself to the neighbors you are very unlikely to continue on...if you live there and will be doing so for the foreseeable future.
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I know you live in the countryside, UM, so maybe it's different out there. But it's a totally different story in Seoul. Even calling attention to rude/obnoxious behaviour seems to encourage the offender and in the end you will be seen as the rude one for even mentioning it most of the time. I came home last night to my across the hall neighbour standing in the hallway scream-talking with his gf who was right in front of him, just opening and slamming his door, like he was fidgeting. I just stood there and glared at him and eventually he noticed me looking and just went inside, but 10 minutes later he was back at it. Noise seems to comfort Koreans, and they seem to be more immune to it after growing up around it. That's my take, anyway.
There also seems to be a weird Korean trend of moving furniture late at night. I'm not really sure what to make of this, but I've spoken to enough people and have experienced it enough myself to see the pattern. Very strange. |
My upstairs neighbor does this too. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
Its the talking.
Those piercing voices that seem to be at 20 decibels even if they are two blocks away.
I have stood on mountains and heard koreans conversations from the valley below as if they were standing next to me.
Koreans can probably be heard in space. |
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| Noise seems to comfort Koreans, and they seem to be more immune to it after growing up around it. That's my take, anyway. |
+1
Oh man, the shrill whines and the fake show laughing and "Oooooh!" and clapping, it's so over the top. You rarely hear anyone here shush the kids to be more quiet. Between the high pitched screams and whines that nobody seems to mind, no wonder many tend to talk so loudly as adults.
Silence and serenity is apparently not valued much at all here. And nobody seems to mind the constant noise pollution around them. Decibels is power and showiness. While we might subconsciously mute our voices in a nice restaurant or bar, many here (usually the men) have to practically talk-shout so the WHOLE place can hear every word they have to say. Thanks but no thanks. |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Unless it's foreign noise. Then they'll tell you to be quiet. |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| My neighbors slam doors and then scream at each other for hours. Happily married? |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I have no idea if there's more shame in the countryside, but in Seoul, if someone's determined to be an arse...calling them on it rarely changes things. In fact, I see it escalating things more often. |
Yep, this. I'm not proud in the least of this story, but a few years ago I had some next door neighbors (2 dudes that worked in all night clubs in Apgujeong) that were noisy, disrespectul Fs to say the least. I did the knocking on the door thing to ask for some peace. It escalated into a shouting match. I exhausted myself and chose to go on back into my apt. Thing is, the dude wouldn't get out from in front of my door to let me go back in. He got a headbutt right in the middle of his face. Ring ring to the po-po immediately from him. Every time that I saw that dude after that he was always trying to start $hit with me. Money-grubber? Perhaps so, but he never got a dime from me from the first incident or anytime after (cause I knew better). Moral of the story; Be careful! |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| He got a headbutt right in the middle of his face. Ring ring to the po-po immediately from him. Every time that I saw that dude after that he was always trying to start $hit with me. |
How did you get out of that one exactly?
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| many here (usually the men) have to practically talk-shout so the WHOLE place can hear every word they have to say. |
I remember reading somewhere that talking loudly after dark was a custom to scare away tigers and evil spirits.
Certainly i have noticed, on the few occasions I have encountered Koreans walking alone in the countryside, that they will sing or hum loudly to themselves, as if scared of the silence.
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| I almost want to break in and install a nanny cam just to understand. I'm not angry or upset anymore, just really baffled. |
Perhaps they're doing their daily exercise routine. i've seen this involve slapping trees, clapping and arm swinging, so pushing furniture back and forth does not seem out of the question. |
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