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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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 Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| luckylady wrote: |
this reminds me of my first year in Korea and another teacher I met who was working at different hakwon down the street. their hakwon wasn't doing too well and he was spending time before and after classes going around putting up flyers for the boss advertising their school, all on his own time.
maybe he just was worried about losing his job? I don't know but it's the same thing - his boss was asking him to work extra time for free - yours is asking for some of your pay back in the form of "gift money for the students" which is bogus.
you can handle it as you like but the best all around way is to just say NO. |
You should say no because if you do it this time then they will keep coming back to you for more money. Say no once and stick to it. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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And at my uni foreign teacher's residence. There used to be this Korean lady who lived here who was the wife of one of the teachers.
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I usually tried to avoid her, or just make up some excuse about not having cash on me or something, but she'd like corner you to get it.
Anyway, the school asking you to chip in for gifts for the kids? Ridiculous. Tell them to shove it, and that you'll buy your own gifts for children's day. Seriously, who says yes to this stuff? |
So in the end did you usually say 'yes' to that guy's wife?
If it was a neighbor asking me to chip in for gifts for people I don't know, i wouldn't do it. More to the point, I wouldn't care one bit if I was on her most despised list. At work, your boss can make your life miserable if you piss her off. My neighbors on the other hand can't make any more problems for me than I can make for them.
Still, don't agree that teachers should have to buy gifts for students. It's no different than saying teachers have to chip in for chalk, markers and paper. I wouldn't quit or even make an issue out of that alone, but if there was other similar stuff going on I wouldn't ignore it. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| If your boss is asking you to give him money so he can buy Children's Day gifts for them in the school's name then he's asking you to shoulder a promotional expense. The comparison to you making and posting fliers for the school in your neighborhood on your own dime and time is a valid one. Tell the boss you'd be happy to pass out any gifts he chooses to buy for the children, or buy your own gifts for the kids if you want to. |
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antifan
Joined: 03 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well the first few times we paid for a "fun day" I thought, hey it's kind of cool.
I am paying 20 bucks but I'm also not teaching on those days, I'm just playing with the kids!
Also, helping out your company is kind of a good thing, as the happier the kids are, less the chance of the hagwon closing down and giving me a hassle.
Though after a few of those "fun days" I realized its 3 times more work playing with the kids than actually just teaching them English.
Also, I had to pay for my own second health check and other annoying little expenses.
Anyways, in the end, I'm just going to not mention it and keep putting off giving her the money for a while. I only have 1 more month left in my contract anyways.
I do feel really bad for the korean teachers that are there, as they follow everyone of my bosses demands without question or complaint. I mean I feel like 20,000 won is a lot bigger deal to their paycheck than it is to mine.
Examples of the things they (Korean teachers) wordlessly comply to:
Have a hweshik (telling us on the day of) The kicker is, its always a meat grill place even if two of the teachers are vegetarians
Go hiking in the morning before class starts. This happened yesterday and all of the co teachers were dead tired, while the boss took the rest of the day off... |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| antifan wrote: |
| I only have 1 more month left in my contract anyways. |
I'm going to take back everything I said earlier. You have one month left in your contract, then you collect your last month's pay, severance, and airfare. It's not worth it to rock the boat now.
Just cough up the W20k, keep your head down, let the BS roll off your back, get paid, and move on to bigger and better things. |
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antifan
Joined: 03 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
| antifan wrote: |
| I only have 1 more month left in my contract anyways. |
I'm going to take back everything I said earlier. You have one month left in your contract, then you collect your last month's pay, severance, and airfare. It's not worth it to rock the boat now.
Just cough up the W20k, keep your head down, let the BS roll off your back, get paid, and move on to bigger and better things. |
You are totally right! |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| luckylady wrote: |
this reminds me of my first year in Korea and another teacher I met who was working at different hakwon down the street. their hakwon wasn't doing too well and he was spending time before and after classes going around putting up flyers for the boss advertising their school, all on his own time.
maybe he just was worried about losing his job? I don't know but it's the same thing - his boss was asking him to work extra time for free - yours is asking for some of your pay back in the form of "gift money for the students" which is bogus.
you can handle it as you like but the best all around way is to just say NO. |
Funny to mention this but Koreans sometimes have to buy their jobs. Many temporary staff feel pressure to buy gifts for their principals to get their contract renewed. (But usually not foriegn teachers.) Anyways, buying things for your job is up to you. Shouldn't have to but if the job is otherwise good, I'd jsut do it. Im usually the first to say stand up to bad hakwon owners, by the way. |
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