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Homer Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Excellent post schwa.
I agree with what you said. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:45 am Post subject: yes |
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You say potato, I say potato, you say cultural relativity, I call it racism.
Korea has a long way to go still. So do many countries. Mine too. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: ...Enlightenment...
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Well I guess we might question why many Korean taxi drivers have developed prejudice against foreign fares.
A Korean passenger generally enters into a smooth friendly transaction. Not accusing anyone above, but it only takes one drunk, vague, argumentative foreigner to sour the driver's attitude toward the rest of us. Racism on the driver's part, sure, but human nature too.
So do your bit. When a driver does pick you up, be pleasant, straightforward about where you want to go, carry appropriate change, & exchange pleasantries on getting out. Might just make it easier on the next foreigner looking to flag a cab. |
The key word in this post being "guess".
Like Korean men don't drink and get in taxis?  |
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sonofthedarkstranger
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Well, let's say you are a Mexican person visiting the US, or Canada, or wherever you may be from...I choose Mexicans because I am American, and there are a lot of Mexicans where I live. You can generally tell they are Mexicans at a glance and there is always a distinct chance they will speak little or no English, or if they do, with a thick Mexican accent. However, there are also Mexicans that speak English perfectly well. This, you cannot tell at a glance.
So, is it OK for cab drivers to pass them by as soon as they discern that that person hailing them down is Mexican? (Assumiong of course the reaosn has something to do with his being Mexican?)
It is the self same thing. I want to hear you apologists defend that and say it's OK to do that in my country.
And yeah...maybe that Mexican guy oughtta think about why that driver won't stop for Mexicans. After all, it only takes one vague, drunk or argumentative Mexican to sour the driver's attitude towards all of em, right? |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Location: Kyungju
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreans are locked into their own thing. The country is supposed to be homogenious, and conservative, and as such not open to change. By change I mean accepting other foreign cultures on equal civilized terms. They will always treat people from other South east Asian countries as slightly less than human, and the White Anglo Saxon race with suspicion. |
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Medic
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Korean culture is called a low risk high avoidance culture in the sense that it doesn't easily accept great dramatic changes to the accepted way of doing things. It's therefore quite conservative, and doesn't take too kindly to anything that might rock the status quo.
Korea also has one of the highest number of online stock traders, and most of them are day traders. Very few are willing to invest for long periods of time that would normaly require taking bigger risks.
This also explains why Korea isn't foreigener friendly. Korean people aren't willing to accept the changes that they must make in their behaiour on meeting a foreigner. Changes such as using different greeeting customs, or having to address someone in another language are things that they just aren't willing to do. It's too traumatic for them to make the adjustment to be accomodating. They therefore reject what is causing them their conflict. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:52 am Post subject: yes |
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| So you are saying, they want to stop staring at me, and checking out my parts in the bathroom, but that would involve changing their culture, so they don't? |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:20 am Post subject: |
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No Ilsanman,
They probably just stare at you because you are different...then again you might be the next Long Don Silver of Asia...  |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Location: Kyungju
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:16 am Post subject: |
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So to get over their trauma of having to interact with foreigners, Koreans need some serious prychological counselling.
Either that or the media and government have to stop harping on the purity of their race and it's homogeneity, and down play it a little. The media play it up too much, and do so to try and counteract the influence of foreign ideas, cug op |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Cultural relativity relates to customs and habits, not moral teaching or truth. Racism would be morally wrong and cannot be attributed to "cultural relativitiy" |
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