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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: So, even kids have this mentality? |
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I was out today on a school trip with primary students from my school. I don't teach in Korea anymore, but my school is Korean. Some of the girls in the grade that I was accompanying were talking to me (don't teach them, so they wanted to chat and hang out). The usual questions came up. They asked where I am from....blah blah. I asked the small group that was around me where each of them was from in Korea originally. The answers were Seoul x5 and 1 Daegu. The girl from Daegu went on to tell me that other kids make fun of her because she is from there and not Seoul. I was thinking, wtf? I pointed out to her and others in earshot some of the good things about her city and she smiled. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: |
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I used to live in Daejon and when relatives and friends from Seoul came to visit, they called it the "country" even though it's a big city in its own right.
I think kids especially have that mentality. Kids will make up any stupid reason to make fun of another kid. What do you expect from kids. |
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rabidcake
Joined: 10 Aug 2009
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: |
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怎么了?很正常啊,中国人也是。上海人对外地人不是特别好 |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:17 am Post subject: |
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a class of first graders I was teaching once started laughing at one of the other students and made him cry - I called the hakwon director in there to find out what was the matter and she said they were all making fun of his new watch and calling it a cheap toy even tho it wasn't. apparently his family was wealthier and they were jealous, she said it was common for the kids to tease each other that way - yea, sounded about right.
still, I was surprised they were so blatant in front of me, to be so cruel. usually kids do that just amongst themselves. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:20 am Post subject: |
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@fermentation I know enough about kids to understand that
@rabidcake 这是非常真实的上海。它提醒我,。 sorry, my Mandarin sucks |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: La Florida
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:39 am Post subject: |
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In Hollywood, there are only New York and Los Angeles ( well and sometimes Chicago )
This board, being so much more sophisticated recognizes 5 locations.
There are East Seoul, West Seoul, North Seoul, South Seoul and Central Seoul ( and sometimes Itaewon). not like those rube indigenous peoples.
Itaewon is the Kim Kardashian of this board. Like most guys on the internet, I am the CEO and chief shareholder of a Fortune 400 company.
So, naturaly I only date supermodels, usually 2-3 at the time. So I so totally understand why guys on the webs just don't find KK attractive enough to toss a dog biscuit. So that's Itaewon in a nutshell. Who would go there and mingle with the great unwashed? Still, that's so much better than provincial Korea ( shudder ).
Sorry, I have to go now. I simply must instruct the serfs and oafs to wax the Bugatti. Adieu. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:03 am Post subject: |
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soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's weird that even though Korea is small, even Koreans don't know much about it sometimes and only think about Seoul... I live in Daegu and people are like "don't you want to move up and work in Seoul?" And one of my Korean friends asked me if there was a beach in Daegu... despite it being in the middle of the country @.@ She had no idea, even though it's the third largest city @.@ When I went to Jeju Island, another Korean friend was openly laughing at her Jeju friend saying things like "I'm Korean and *I* can't understand him! His crazy Jeju accent~ who knows what he's saying??" and laughing hysterically... at her own friend @.@
I like to think only the ruder people are like that, though... >.> |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Dude, regionism here is normal.
Also, kids pick on each other. |
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:33 am Post subject: |
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soomin wrote: |
Yeah, it's weird that even though Korea is small, even Koreans don't know much about it sometimes and only think about Seoul... I live in Daegu and people are like "don't you want to move up and work in Seoul?" And one of my Korean friends asked me if there was a beach in Daegu... despite it being in the middle of the country @.@ She had no idea, even though it's the third largest city @.@ When I went to Jeju Island, another Korean friend was openly laughing at her Jeju friend saying things like "I'm Korean and *I* can't understand him! His crazy Jeju accent~ who knows what he's saying??" and laughing hysterically... at her own friend @.@
I like to think only the ruder people are like that, though... >.> |
If you can't laugh at your friend, who can you laugh at? |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:44 am Post subject: |
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happiness wrote: |
Dude, regionism here is normal.
Also, kids pick on each other. |
Dude, really? I never knew either of those things. Thanks for enlightening me. The point is that these kids don't live in Korea and many of them have spent most of their lives outside of there, yet feel the need to pick at others just like they would there. Who teaches them that, dude? |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, Im not an 1st langauge speaker. I guess I used dude wrong...
um..Ive found with Kyopos it depends on their parents on how Korean they are...who knows |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:11 am Post subject: |
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I hear the same thing from other Americans here in Korea. Like the kids in the OP, none of the other foreigners I am speaking of live in the US (as we are all here in Korea)
And while the teasing doesn't go to the extent of the kids in the description, most of it is in body language..etc, but when some of the other Americans I have encountered who are from major cities like New York (not event the city, but even people who live 100 miles from NYC think of themselves as New Yorkers), Miami, LA, Chicago, Philly..etc hear that I am from Raleigh, NC..I also get the subtle nose up reaction (even though my home city is consistently rated in the top 5 places to live in the US)
As has been said many time about Koreans asking about age/university education..etc as a means to measure themselves against that person, I find that this kind of "sizing up" is not exclusive to Koreans. We foreigners do the same, albeit in a more subtle and hidden way. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:13 am Post subject: |
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happiness wrote: |
Sorry, Im not an 1st langauge speaker. I guess I used dude wrong...
um..Ive found with Kyopos it depends on their parents on how Korean they are...who knows |
No worries. These kids are not kyopos, they are expat Koreans living in a neighboring country, so yes, who knows?
coralreefer_1 wrote: |
IAnd while the teasing doesn't go to the extent of the kids in the description, most of it is in body language..etc, but when some of the other Americans I have encountered who are from major cities like New York (not event the city, but even people who live 100 miles from NYC think of themselves as New Yorkers), Miami, LA, Chicago, Philly..etc hear that I am from Raleigh, NC..I also get the subtle nose up reaction (even though my home city is consistently rated in the top 5 places to live in the US)
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Yes, I get that as well. I went to a big 3 uni in that area. Most people don't know that (at least in my time in the area) that more people per demographic population hold Phd degrees in RTP than the other metropolitan statistical areas of the country. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:23 am Post subject: |
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happiness wrote: |
Dude, regionism here is normal.
Also, kids pick on each other. |
Indeed!
I have fond memories of fellow students in Toronto making fun of people that were from the suburbs of TO.
Same deal in Montreal for people from the South Shore or gasp from Laval!
Comes with the territory!
Heck go to Paris...it is even more fun there.  |
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