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Is My Scottish Accent Too Strong?
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gdn35 wrote:
Thanks for the reply. Would there be any online tutorials/books that would assist me in softening the accent and making it more neutral?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNtOWLS7aY

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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funny video. It was only last week a korean was telling me about it!
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Daelim



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nae borra big man yir accent is bang on furra teachin oot her, know?
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a flatmate from Aberdeen when I was at uni in Edinburgh. He was pretty difficult to understand at times, although he wasn't shy about using slang used only in his home town of Turiff (sp?) Laughing

I'd suggest shooting for a posh Scottish accent. In my opinion it's probably the most phonetically correct of all the English accents, including Canadian and received pronunciation etc. R's are pronounced but not over pronounced and vowels all seem to be spoken as they 'should' sound. That's only my opinion of course, but I'd love to see someone argue the case for a posh English or standard American accent instead

Anyway, if you're aware of the specific differences between your accent and a softer accent you'd use when teaching it's not difficult to pull off as long as you are speaking slowly

Benjamino wrote:


I didn't know the singer from The Pet Shop Boys played Dr Who Laughing

I'm from the North East of England, a place called Middlesbrough (no I'm not a Geordie) and we have a very unique accent indeed. I recently had my interview for Korea and was told I had no accent whatsoever by the Korean Education chap.

I do have an accent but when I speak to non native speakers or while I'm teaching I revert to 'Received Pronunciation.' It's not a case of losing you accent but rather knowing when to turn it off or on.


I'm from Newcastle, and to me a Boro accent sounds more like a Leeds accent than a Geordie one.

I also go for received pronunciation when I teach or just speak to Koreans generally. I'd already lost my accent to some degree by the time I was out of uni and by now people rarely notice it because I became so used to pronouncing things differently that it just became normal. I think the idea of teaching English in the accent I had at 16 would be absurd Smile
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pegasus64128



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What part of Scotland is that accent from?
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegasus64128 wrote:
What part of Scotland is that accent from?


Sounds Glaswegian but I haven't been to Scotland in 14 years.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

valkerie wrote:
Benjamino wrote:
Seoulman69 wrote:
The two accents that are desirable worldwide are considered to be General American and Received Pronunciation. Take for example Neil Tennent. When playing the Doctor he spoke in a neutral British accent. While there is no need to completely lose your Scottish accent, watching some instructional videos on received pronunciation will help you.
Your accent sounds like it is from the north east of Scotland. Aberdeen or Elgin perhaps. A bit too strong for Korean tastes. Search youtube for interviews with Ewan McGregor and pay attention to the way he speaks. Slang is not your friend in Korea. Wee, aye, nu', all need to be changed to more standard forms such as small, yes, no.
Also google received pronunciation and educate yourself.
Of course, none of this will matter if you are a shit teacher. Do you have experience? Are you qualified? It's a big move so make sure you think it through properly.


I didn't know the singer from The Pet Shop Boys played Dr Who Laughing

I'm from the North East of England, a place called Middlesbrough (no I'm not a Geordie) and we have a very unique accent indeed. I recently had my interview for Korea and was told I had no accent whatsoever by the Korean Education chap.

I do have an accent but when I speak to non native speakers or while I'm teaching I revert to 'Received Pronunciation.' It's not a case of losing you accent but rather knowing when to turn it off or on.


Yay, another Boro person. That's where I hail from and when I go back for a visit the accent sounds so strong to me LOL.


Love the 'Boro! I went to Uni there, a long long long long time ago. Some of my favourite things from 'Boro include Parmos, donner meat with garlic sauce and The Arena nightclub. Happy memories. Smile
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Benjamino



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh the famous parmo. I'm not a fan to be honest but it's a dish that converts many a student to Boro life.

The Arena is still going strong and I was there a few times last year. Did you know acts such as:
Joy Division
Sex Pistols
Oasis

have played there?
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gdn35



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What part of Scotland is that accent from?


I'm from Aberdeen. It is in the North-East of Scotland. I actually think Edinburgh and Inverness accents are the easiest to understand in Scotland.
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I swear, one of the biggest problems I have with Korean is still not being able to make out what they're saying. Even when I know, word for word, what they're saying, if I replay in my head the sounds I heard, sometimes they just don't seem to match the way I think the sounds are supposed to be from what I've learned in class. And I mean wildly off, like a syllable I hear as 'peng' was actually something like 'kot'.

Phonetics and phonology are a killer. God help these people if they ever hear a real, strong Scottish accent.
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gdn35



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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God help these people if they ever hear a real, strong Scottish accent.


So are you insinuating that Scottish accents are more difficult to understand than some strong American, Australian or English accents?
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gdn35 wrote:
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God help these people if they ever hear a real, strong Scottish accent.


So are you insinuating that Scottish accents are more difficult to understand than some strong American, Australian or English accents?


What I meant was that Koreans are so far removed from the real authentic sounds of real authentic English, they don't have a prayer of understanding any strong regional accent, be it Scottish, American or whatever.

To me, the way people naturally speak is the true embodiment of the living language, which is why I know I'm still a long way from understanding Korean - the way people naturally speak it, outside the classroom, it's very difficult to segment words.
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gdn35



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clarifying that. I understand your point and I agree with it.
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Alphonsus Jr.



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Is My Scottish Accent Too Strong? Reply with quote

gdn35 wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm planning on applying for a job in South Korea towards the end of the year but I do have concerns over my Scottish accent. I've read a lot about Koreans preferring North American English accents and I certainly do not have this.

I would be very grateful if someone could watch the first 30 seconds of this video (I am the first person who appears in the video) and let me know if my accent is too strong, and if I need to try and modify this for a phone interview etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCcpxTcUYsQ

Thank You so much.


It's pretty thick to these American ears.
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sml7285



Joined: 26 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Is My Scottish Accent Too Strong? Reply with quote

gdn35 wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm planning on applying for a job in South Korea towards the end of the year but I do have concerns over my Scottish accent. I've read a lot about Koreans preferring North American English accents and I certainly do not have this.

I would be very grateful if someone could watch the first 30 seconds of this video (I am the first person who appears in the video) and let me know if my accent is too strong, and if I need to try and modify this for a phone interview etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCcpxTcUYsQ

Thank You so much.


For some reason, I keep thinking about this commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h3ewZxrqU4
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