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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| I would just like to point out that probably unlike in the case of Japan, in Korea you face microaggressions at home, when browsing the internet. |
That really doesn't count... If you're using English on your browser, a company has every reason to think you do your shopping in English as well. |
I was going to say the same thing, but then noticed the way in which it redirects you. Doesn't say "English" site. Says "foreign" site. I think that's what blackinque meant. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I don't really buy the microaggression idea for the most part but the way the word foreigner is used here is one big example that there's room for the concept. You're being called an outsider, always will be, and people are blissfully unaware of the connotations it carries. I've dealt with it appearing in English materials for an overseas market for years now and even people with really good English just don't get it.
To be fair, illegal alien isn't really any better. And not every little perceived slight we experience is microaggression. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| Ground down by the constant "othering"? Funny, but I've been here for nearly 20 years and I don't feel like I don't belong. |
Then no offense, but you probably live in a reality inside your own head.
I've known guys in SK as long as you with Korean wives and kids, who say they still get treated as outsiders even by their spouses familly and co-workers whom have known them many years.
Cheers. |
Lol.
If koreans let their ethnic identity slide then what would be left? nothing.
That is a scary thought to them.
"We must exclude someone, or we will be left with nothing" |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:18 am Post subject: |
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It's the breakdown of social cohesiveness some Koreans probably fear as much as ethnic diversity.
They wouldn't necessarily be left with any more nothing than the West has arguably* been left with. Maybe less nothing!!
*Those who would argue that. Not everyone. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| Yeah I don't really buy the microaggression idea for the most part but the way the word foreigner is used here is one big example that there's room for the concept. You're being called an outsider, always will be, and people are blissfully unaware of the connotations it carries. |
More importantly, it's the non-Korean's race that's usually the determining factor. If I started speaking Korean with someone and they noticed the accent and said "Oh, you're a foreigner!"... well, no big deal, eh? But it's quite a bit different if you're bicycling past someone and they say "Oh, an American!" (particularly if you're not).
Tying one's ethnic identity to one's national identity is both disgusting and dangerous. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone here regularly get infantilized?
I'm going grey and still some of the ajummas in the restaurants talk to me like I'm 5 years old. I know its out of affection but....really.
Mind you I'm not alone, I've seen 50 year old women put on a lisp and behave like infants to appease the principal at presentation time. |
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WadRUG'naDoo
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
Does anyone here regularly get infantilized?
I'm going grey and still some of the ajummas in the restaurants talk to me like I'm 5 years old. I know its out of affection but....really.
Mind you I'm not alone, I've seen 50 year old women put on a lisp and behave like infants to appease the principal at presentation time. |
How do you sleep? |
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Alphonsus Jr.
Joined: 04 May 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Newsflash:
In Korea, non-Koreans are outsiders, aliens, foreigners, and all the rest of it. To recognize this truth - or any other truth - isn't aggression, "micro" or otherwise. |
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