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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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 Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:18 am Post subject: HELP ME PLEASE - A release form/ yet to get ARC question |
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Ok, here is the drill....
I only went to Fukuoka 2 weeks ago to get my visa and its not to bad at my job. However I just got offered a fantastic position and it is exactly what i want.
I'm going to find a replacement, will give 6 weeks notice and will pay back my visa run so I'm not just dissapearing.
So my question is this.....
I got my E2 Visa in Fukuoka but have yet to go to immigration to get my ARC and be registered at this current hagwon. So do I need a release form to leave my current hagwon or can i just quit and use the E2 visa for my new hagwon to get my ARC??
Its really important that i know exactly by next monday. |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| You need a release letter and I don't believe you can get one after only 2 weeks. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| Why do i need a release letter if I'm not registered at immigration????? |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
| Why do i need a release letter if I'm not registered at immigration????? |
You are registered as having an E-2 visa. |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| OP, you seem to be underestimating the ties that you've formed by getting an E-2. Just because you don't have your ARC yet does not make you free. Your E-2 does mean something, and I believe it is specific to your current school. I'm not exactly sure what your current options are, but the fact that you have an E-2 is a problem that you don't seem to realize. |
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Saxiif
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| I got my E2 Visa in Fukuoka but have yet to go to immigration to get my ARC and be registered at this current hagwon. |
I believe that as long as you don't do anything else (ie show up to immigration) that you have runs out in 90 days or less (forget the exact number). Check with efl-law... |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| Saxiif wrote: |
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| I got my E2 Visa in Fukuoka but have yet to go to immigration to get my ARC and be registered at this current hagwon. |
I believe that as long as you don't do anything else (ie show up to immigration) that you have runs out in 90 days or less (forget the exact number). Check with efl-law... |
The visa does not expire, you just get in trouble. |
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canukteacher
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:34 am Post subject: |
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You have 90 days to get your ARC after you receive your E2 Visa. You have the E2 and you are now tied to the sponsoring employer. I forget how many months, but there is a minimum before you can get a release letter and move on. Sometimes things come up in our lives, and we have to miss the opportunity, and unfortunately in a country where the employer owns your Visa it happens more often.
CT
~flames edited by waterbaby 28/4~ |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:14 am Post subject: |
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As canuckteacher stated, your E2 is valid for 90 days. You can resign your position, even if you have only been there for a day. Discuss it with your director, advise him or her, that you will find a replacement teacher, but that notwithstanding, you are tending your notice. Your new employer will have to apply for a new E2 and you will have to do another visa run. If your current employer refuses to give you a letter of release, big deal. Serve out your notice and sail of merrily into the sunset. Do it by the book and enjoy your new job.  |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| sadsac wrote: |
| Serve out your notice and sail of merrily into the sunset. Do it by the book and enjoy your new job. |
That sounds good however, I still would need a release even if I served out 6 weeks of my contract as I need to change sponsors. This is correct I think. |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| No, my old son. That would depend entirely on the attitude of your new employer. The LOR is an overated document, in this posters eyes anyway. I've never gotten one and it has never been a problem. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:19 am Post subject: |
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So basically the advice is this.
Give 6 weeks notice
Don'y get a release letter
Go on another visa run
No problems a job will be waiting. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
So basically the advice is this.
Give 6 weeks notice
Don'y get a release letter
Go on another visa run
No problems a job will be waiting. |
If you try and do that, when your new employer submits the paperwork for your visa, it will be declined as you already have one.
Unless someone at Immigration decides to give you a new visa (usually because someone makes an emotional appeal that one was poorly treated), you are out of luck. Ditching a job two months in when the employer did his end of things isn't going to win any favours.
You're going to have to reach an agreement with your employer if you plan to change sponsors this early into a contract, especially if they paid for you to come here. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| gord wrote: |
If you try and do that, when your new employer submits the paperwork for your visa, it will be declined as you already have one.
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I thought so.
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| You're going to have to reach an agreement with your employer if you plan to change sponsors this early into a contract, especially if they paid for you to come here. |
I paid for myself to get here, so there is no financial liabilty to them. Not even a recruiter as i searched this current hagwon out. There is nothing wrong with where I work, just got a once in every 10 year offer I'd be mad to turn down. |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| If you manange to arrange replacements and you are on good terms with your director, ask him to go to immigration with you and cancel your E2 immediately. If not he has to advise immigration that you are no longer working for the school within 72 hours. Your E2 is cancelled at that time. |
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