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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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 Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Hankuk University of Forgien Studies |
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| scotttteacher wrote: |
Hi
I just did an interview for a job at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies (HUFS) in Yongin. I'm just wondering if it is the Hankuk University being mentioned here.
I've been offered 3.5mil for hours of 9-5 plus housing in the dorms on campus. But I only have a BA so I'm skeptical.
Is the Hankuk University being mentioned here in Yongin? |
The place with the nasty reputation is the foreign language training center (FLTTC) at HUFS' Seoul location. That is the place to avoid. That's the place that posters are referring to. |
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asdfghjkl
Joined: 21 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Some of the Christian schools do not require certification of teachers. They focus more on the, er, spiritual side of things. Some Christian schools also pay very, very little. Or extensively employ "interns". |
I worked at one of these before and quit after five months. It was terrible! They had the words "international school" in their name, but all of the students were Korean, though they did not go to public schools. It was like working at a hagwon but from 9am to 8pm and for less money. They wanted me to teach the students a bunch of creationist hogwash, too. Moreover, I lived in the slightly remodeled utility shed on the roof of the school.
I'm sure someone with minimal experience can get a job at a place calling itself an international school. I'll bet that back in the US, the dudes working at ITT Tech call themselves professors. I call myself a teacher sometimes. |
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earthquakez
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| nora wrote: |
It's like with every rule - there is always an exception.
I applied for a dozen uni jobs. None were in Seoul, but about half were in the suburbs and the other half in the provinces. Got a call back from one, during my class, so I talked for a few minutes in the hall. Never heard back from them.
Saw ad 13. Applied, got a call, went in and interviewed, went back and interviewed again, got the job.
When I applied, I only applied for jobs that didn't require an MA or uni experience (i had none). This ad was looking for an MA, but a BA might do. The pay was about 500k more than the others. I figured I had no shot at all, but I got it.
That being said, we just hired one more guy this semester. 30 people applied, 6 were brought in for interviews, 1 was hired. While he is definitely qualified, I'm sure he was not the MOST qualified, but he was the one that was most likely to fit in with our department. People who couldn't be bothered to fill out the right forms, be here in person, etc wouldn't even be accepted to interview - that should tell you something right there. 6 of 30.
Remember, you can't get the job if you don't apply. I got my job because of a combination of experience (in and out of work), charisma (I'd like to think), and luck - I was the right person at the right time. |
 Judging from your other posts I'd say all this activity and your job are taking place in fantasyland. Just admit you're a Korean trolling around here and be done with it. Although you write a fairytale here, the English is passable. Unlike other posts. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| earthquakez wrote: |
| nora wrote: |
It's like with every rule - there is always an exception.
I applied for a dozen uni jobs. None were in Seoul, but about half were in the suburbs and the other half in the provinces. Got a call back from one, during my class, so I talked for a few minutes in the hall. Never heard back from them.
Saw ad 13. Applied, got a call, went in and interviewed, went back and interviewed again, got the job.
When I applied, I only applied for jobs that didn't require an MA or uni experience (i had none). This ad was looking for an MA, but a BA might do. The pay was about 500k more than the others. I figured I had no shot at all, but I got it.
That being said, we just hired one more guy this semester. 30 people applied, 6 were brought in for interviews, 1 was hired. While he is definitely qualified, I'm sure he was not the MOST qualified, but he was the one that was most likely to fit in with our department. People who couldn't be bothered to fill out the right forms, be here in person, etc wouldn't even be accepted to interview - that should tell you something right there. 6 of 30.
Remember, you can't get the job if you don't apply. I got my job because of a combination of experience (in and out of work), charisma (I'd like to think), and luck - I was the right person at the right time. |
Judging from your other posts I'd say all this activity and your job are taking place in fantasyland. Just admit you're a Korean trolling around here and be done with it. Although you write a fairytale here, the English is passable. Unlike other posts. |
Is there anyone here you don't think is Korean? |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Nick Adams wrote: |
| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Top international schools charge up to 2 million won a month fees so just ask yourself the question. Would you pay that much money to send your kid to a school where his teacher had no teaching qualifications at all. Even if he looked like Brad Pitt and wore Armani every day? |
Korea has lots of international schools. Some of them are not "real" international schools (i.e. accredited by an academic institution like WASC or Middle States Association or COIS, using an organized curriculum, staffed by certified, experienced teachers). Korea now has 5 or 6 real international schools and a handful more that are in the process of developing.
Some of the Christian schools do not require certification of teachers. They focus more on the, er, spiritual side of things. Some Christian schools also pay very, very little. Or extensively employ "interns".
The most expensive international school in Korea is Chadwick International School out in the new Songdo IBD. Tuition for next year is $14,000 USD plus 22 million Korean won for one year as a high school student. So, let's call that $35,000 USD per year:
http://www.chadwickinternational.org/page.cfm?p=3202
Legit international schools in Korea are charging $20,000-$35,000 USD in tuition, per year. Families that can afford this don't just send their kid one year. It is usually either K-12 or 7-12 or 9-12. Some families spend half a million+ USD to educate one child (international school, hagwons and tutors, summer programs overseas, university overseas). These parents won't accept unqualified teachers. They aren't duped by the Armani label sewed on the no-name suit from Itaewon or Khosan Road. Sorry, a suit and a smile are not enough.
Schools like this will not hire unqualified teachers. Or teachers "thinking about enrolling" in a certification program. An ESL certificate is not enough.
Being an international school teacher, at a real school, is a good to great job. |
I've gotta agree with this guy. I've e-mailed and phoned a few of the principals of international schools because I'm a certified teacher. My cert is in Special Ed. so the international schools are tough. To keep their accreditation they have to employ teachers with certification. If you look at the real international schools web sites it usually states the faculties education. Most, if not all of the faculty, will have a master's. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| transmogrifier wrote: |
| Is there anyone here you don't think is Korean? |
No ESLCafe post is complete without a bit of the "Guess That Korean!" game. |
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