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permapaul
Joined: 09 May 2012
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 Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: Korea now requiring 2 copies of CBC?! |
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I got this message from a recruiter:
As of recently, a new requirement is being implemented in Korea, requiring all teachers to submit an apostilled criminal record check and apostilled degree photocopy to the Ministry of Education in Korea after arriving. This means that you must obtain 2 sets of your CRC and 2 sets of your degree photocopy with apostille - 1 set for the Korean Immigration Office and 1 set for the Ministry of Education. There is still some speculation as to whether photocopies will be accepted, but to be on the safe side, we are asking all teachers to prepare 2 original sets. Should anything be confirmed, we will inform you immediately.
Anyone know any updates on this? |
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maemae28
Joined: 07 May 2012
Location: mn, usa
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Im in the process right now, about to accept an offer, and have not heard anything about this from my recruiter. Makes me think that is not correct.... but I could be wrong. |
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jasonXkeller
Joined: 17 Jan 2012
Location: Redlands, CA
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| My recruiter just told me the same thing. One for immigration and one for the Dept. of Education. Honestly though, if this is true, shouldn't this be a sticky announcement? It's not like CBC's are gotten overnight. It seems to me that Dave's would be abuzz with this fact if it were indeed a fact. |
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jasonXkeller
Joined: 17 Jan 2012
Location: Redlands, CA
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, he said it's new(past 3 or 4 mos.) The dept of ed used to accept a copy from immigration, but apparently they no longer do. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| jasonXkeller wrote: |
| Oh, he said it's new(past 3 or 4 mos.) The dept of ed used to accept a copy from immigration, but apparently they no longer do. |
You're certain of this? When ttompatz says this is true, I'll believe it. Recruiters aren't always well-informed. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| Absolutely absurd if true. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| Has anyone actually bothered to call immigration about this? |
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r122925
Joined: 02 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Has anyone actually bothered to call immigration about this? |
Wouldn't do much good.
Immigration wants one original criminal record check, same as they have for several years now.
Due to recent changes in regulations the local education office now also wants a criminal record check.
The question is, can the CRC that you give to the education authorities be the same CRC that you gave to immigration office (a photocopy)?
The answer to that question seems to depend on when you call, which office you call, who answers the phone, and the direction the wind happens to be blowing that day.
It's a case of two different government agencies not knowing what the other is doing.
Sounds like these recruiters are simply covering all the bases since the government hasn't figured out what it's doing yet. Hard to blame them for that. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| r122925 wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Has anyone actually bothered to call immigration about this? |
Wouldn't do much good.
Immigration wants one original criminal record check, same as they have for several years now.
Due to recent changes in regulations the local education office now also wants a criminal record check.
The question is, can the CRC that you give to the education authorities be the same CRC that you gave to immigration office (a photocopy)?
The answer to that question seems to depend on when you call, which office you call, who answers the phone, and the direction the wind happens to be blowing that day.
It's a case of two different government agencies not knowing what the other is doing.
Sounds like these recruiters are simply covering all the bases since the government hasn't figured out what it's doing yet. Hard to blame them for that. |
Stupid me, I meant MOE. Obviously immigration has nothing to do with this. Let me ask again: has anyone called MOE about this? And yes, I fully realize the fool's errand that is attempting to get a straight answer from Korean bureaucrats. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
| isitts wrote: |
| jasonXkeller wrote: |
| Oh, he said it's new(past 3 or 4 mos.) The dept of ed used to accept a copy from immigration, but apparently they no longer do. |
You're certain of this? When ttompatz says this is true, I'll believe it. Recruiters aren't always well-informed. |
I have the same issue right now. I got a CRC and a notarized degree, now they're telling me I need another one HALF-WAY through my contract because the Board of Education doesn't accept them from immigration. Since I'm already in Korea, it is a pain in the butt. |
Really? I don't feel like digging up the thread that said the MOE accepts kimmi-made copies, but if that's no longer the case anyway....ugh, I don't know.
I'd actually brought two original CBCs in case the MOE didn't accept kimmi copies, but if the MOE doesn't ask for it soon, it'll expire. Who knew a six month window could be so small?  This is getting ridiculous. |
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RLib
Joined: 17 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Half my recruiters are telling me that I need two, other half is saying only one. One of my recruiters explained that MOE's in larger cities (Seoul, Busan, etc) are requesting authentic CBC's with apostilles, while MOE's in smaller cities and rural areas are not. Additionally, I was told that I would have 45 days after starting the job to give MOE an authentic CBC w/apostille.
For what it's worth, though, EPIK and GEPIK, as far as I know, are only requesting one copy. And most of my recruiters that work with public schools are also saying one. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| RLib wrote: |
Half my recruiters are telling me that I need two, other half is saying only one. One of my recruiters explained that MOE's in larger cities (Seoul, Busan, etc) are requesting authentic CBC's with apostilles, while MOE's in smaller cities and rural areas are not. Additionally, I was told that I would have 45 days after starting the job to give MOE an authentic CBC w/apostille.
For what it's worth, though, EPIK and GEPIK, as far as I know, are only requesting one copy. And most of my recruiters that work with public schools are also saying one. |
Right. So confusion as usual.
[self edit...correction by r122925 in post below.]
Last edited by isitts on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:28 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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r122925
Joined: 02 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
By the way, there's only one Ministry of Education (MOE) in Korea. The others are either provincial offices or city offices of education. |
This seems to be a major source of confusion as well. There is only one Ministry of Education in Korea, that much is correct. Its official title is the Ministry of Education, Science, and Technology and is always referred to by the English acronymn MEST. MOE, on the other hand, stands for Municipal Office of Education or sometimes Metropolitan Office of Education (local city offices). And it's those local offices that are responsible for verifying your documents. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| r122925 wrote: |
| isitts wrote: |
By the way, there's only one Ministry of Education (MOE) in Korea. The others are either provincial offices or city offices of education. |
This seems to be a major source of confusion as well. There is only one Ministry of Education in Korea, that much is correct. Its official title is the Ministry of Education, Science, and Technology and is always referred to by the English acronymn MEST. MOE, on the other hand, stands for Municipal Office of Education or sometimes Metropolitan Office of Education (local city offices). And it's those local offices that are responsible for verifying your documents. |
  Thank you. I'll withdraw that part of the comment. But then, would that mean it's the MEST requiring the CRC? Or just random MOEs? And what of the POEs?
Anyway, getting tired of these MOE/POEs. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Anecdotal, but when I turned in my CBC to my local immi office a couple months ago, they told me OK, accepted & noted, & then they passed it along to the local Office of Education. Done & done. Sensible.
In hindsight though, if I were arranging it again today, I'd order two. Because you never really know. |
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