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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: Should we contact EPIK? |
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Ok so my girlfriend has a very stingy school . First, they wouldn't let her get her settlement allowance until she got her ARC because they said they would only do direct deposit. This is despite the fact that we didn't need her ARC to open a bank account. She asked to open one without the ARC because she 100% can, but they would not let her go. Then when she got her ARC they said she must take a personal day to go to the bank. However, the bank is only open during school hours, and sometimes she is just deskwarming. Everyone I have talked with said their school let them have a half a day to open a bank, and most people got their settlement allowance in cash like me.
Should I contact someone at EPIK or my cities MOE? |
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plchron
Joined: 26 Feb 2011
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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In her contract there should be a clause about using personal leave during her contract period. If she does not use eight hours of this personal leave then it does not count towards her vacation time (going of the standard EPIK contract).
Her principal, VP, head teacher need to sign of on her taking this leave. If i were her, I would call in sick. visit the doctor in the morning, tell him her stomach hurts, get his business card, go to the bank and set it up.
I would also treat the school like crap from then on for acting this way. Extra classes? No. Help with something? I am busy., etc. etc. |
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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| plchron wrote: |
In her contract there should be a clause about using personal leave during her contract period. If she does not use eight hours of this personal leave then it does not count towards her vacation time (going of the standard EPIK contract).
Her principal, VP, head teacher need to sign of on her taking this leave. If i were her, I would call in sick. visit the doctor in the morning, tell him her stomach hurts, get his business card, go to the bank and set it up.
I would also treat the school like crap from then on for acting this way. Extra classes? No. Help with something? I am busy., etc. etc. |
She went a half a day, and they counted it as a personal day I think. They said if she is "misses" again it is considered apart of her vacation time.
Yeah, she isn't doing any extra work for them at all. Her apartment is also the worst of all our friends in Daegu and other locations (by a wide margin), and she was told the lease is up two monthes before she leaves but don't know what they will do. |
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warmachinenkorea
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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They're testing her. If she let's them do this stuff then she will have a terrible year. Stand up now.
I live right outside of Daegu and I'm considered part of Gyeongbuk EPIK. We have regional coordinators that are our first contacts. Find out if you have this and have her talk to them first. |
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| If she has a spare period or two why can't she just go to the bank and come back? If I do this to pay some bills, it's never counted as part of my time off. Why is her school being so @n@l? Is it like this over in the Daegu area? |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| If she has a spare period or two why can't she just go to the bank and come back? If I do this to pay some bills, it's never counted as part of my time off. Why is her school being so @n@l? Is it like this over in the Daegu area? |
I can come and go as I please as long as I have my lessons done and back for class. Of course i don't abuse this. If i need to go to the bank then I tell my co-teacher and there's no problem. I've talked to other teachers in my area and some schools are real strict about it. In my first school here I was told I couldn't leave campus even for lunch. Now my teacher comes to me and says "We have no classes this afternoon so you can go home. See you tomorrow." |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| If she has a spare period or two why can't she just go to the bank and come back? If I do this to pay some bills, it's never counted as part of my time off. Why is her school being so @n@l? Is it like this over in the Daegu area? |
I can come and go as I please as long as I have my lessons done and back for class. Of course i don't abuse this. If i need to go to the bank then I tell my co-teacher and there's no problem. I've talked to other teachers in my area and some schools are real strict about it. In my first school here I was told I couldn't leave campus even for lunch. Now my teacher comes to me and says "We have no classes this afternoon so you can go home. See you tomorrow." |
If you want it to stay that way, I wouldn't post about it. Next some teachers will be complaining that they have a "friend" who can do this, and EPIK/GEPIK/WhicheverDistrictYouAreUnder will instruct all their schools that teachers are to be on school premises from 8:30-4:30 no matter what. Kinda like the ol' camp/vacation debacle. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| This is despite the fact that we didn't need her ARC to open a bank account. |
The settlement allowance is different than opening a bank account. It is something given to teachers through the school, and therefore needs to be accounted for through the way the system is set up.
I don't know how much it is, 300,000? Why don't you just use a credit card, and then when you get your first pay it should have the settlement allowance added to that.
If you want to figure who is stingy, who is complaining about a settlement allowance and who is providing a free place to stay?
Is the settlement allowance the only problem? |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| This is despite the fact that we didn't need her ARC to open a bank account. |
The settlement allowance is different than opening a bank account. It is something given to teachers through the school, and therefore needs to be accounted for through the way the system is set up.
I don't know how much it is, 300,000? Why don't you just use a credit card, and then when you get your first pay it should have the settlement allowance added to that.
If you want to figure who is stingy, who is complaining about a settlement allowance and who is providing a free place to stay?
Is the settlement allowance the only problem? |
It can be given in cash and they know exactly where it's going. I got mine in cash when I arrived in 2008. If she opened a bank account then there is record of where it's going. Someone in the office doesn't want to hand over the money. It's not really a settlement allowance if you get it when you get paid. It's just 300,000 added to the first pay check. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Otherside wrote: |
| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| If she has a spare period or two why can't she just go to the bank and come back? If I do this to pay some bills, it's never counted as part of my time off. Why is her school being so @n@l? Is it like this over in the Daegu area? |
I can come and go as I please as long as I have my lessons done and back for class. Of course i don't abuse this. If i need to go to the bank then I tell my co-teacher and there's no problem. I've talked to other teachers in my area and some schools are real strict about it. In my first school here I was told I couldn't leave campus even for lunch. Now my teacher comes to me and says "We have no classes this afternoon so you can go home. See you tomorrow." |
If you want it to stay that way, I wouldn't post about it. Next some teachers will be complaining that they have a "friend" who can do this, and EPIK/GEPIK/WhicheverDistrictYouAreUnder will instruct all their schools that teachers are to be on school premises from 8:30-4:30 no matter what. Kinda like the ol' camp/vacation debacle. |
Been at this school for almost 4 years. It's semi-private and they kinda march to their own beat. There's a lot of give and take with us. I don't take advantage of them and they don't take advantage of me. |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to figure who is stingy, who is complaining about a settlement allowance and who is providing a free place to stay?
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there is no "free" housing - the costs of housing for a teacher is all part of our salary, one way or the other. even if we opt for the allowance vs. the residence. the company writes it off as a business expense.
there is also no reason to call someone stingy because they aren't getting their settlement allowance in a timely manner. the point is to use it to buy household items one doesn't bring with one when relocating to another country.
further, if it's in a contract, then that's all there is to it. it's not like a freakin' tip or something  |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| This is despite the fact that we didn't need her ARC to open a bank account. |
The settlement allowance is different than opening a bank account. It is something given to teachers through the school, and therefore needs to be accounted for through the way the system is set up.
I don't know how much it is, 300,000? Why don't you just use a credit card, and then when you get your first pay it should have the settlement allowance added to that.
If you want to figure who is stingy, who is complaining about a settlement allowance and who is providing a free place to stay?
Is the settlement allowance the only problem? |
I love these types of comments on here. Yeah, you're the stingy one for demanding to be paid what's promised in your contract! How unreasonable!
Seriously, have you ever worked a day anywhere in the world? |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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I love these types of comments on here. Yeah, you're the stingy one for demanding to be paid what's promised in your contract! How unreasonable!
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That is not what is going on here though.
They are saying that if she wants to go to the bank and set up an account so they can deposit the money there she must use a personal day.
The OP is complaining because other teachers have said they got a half day to set up their account. Yeah well that's not the case at his GF's school.
So it's not like they are withholding funds or refusing to let her go to the bank...they are just saying she has to use a personal day to do that and technically they are well within their rights to do so.
Yes some/many schools are lax or permissive...but some schools go strictly by the book. She got a strict school is all but they are not violating the contract...not based on the info in the OP's post. |
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Tyshine
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
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I love these types of comments on here. Yeah, you're the stingy one for demanding to be paid what's promised in your contract! How unreasonable!
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That is not what is going on here though.
They are saying that if she wants to go to the bank and set up an account so they can deposit the money there she must use a personal day.
The OP is complaining because other teachers have said they got a half day to set up their account. Yeah well that's not the case at his GF's school.
So it's not like they are withholding funds or refusing to let her go to the bank...they are just saying she has to use a personal day to do that and technically they are well within their rights to do so.
Yes some/many schools are lax or permissive...but some schools go strictly by the book. She got a strict school is all but they are not violating the contract...not based on the info in the OP's post. |
Yes, thank you. The post wasn't about the 300$(although not getting it was annoying), but the fact they made her take a personal day to go to the bank even though it had to be done and could only be done within working hours. Her school is a joke. She recently got a talking to about her crosswalk behavior, and her crappy apartment's bathroom is breaking down (pipes leaking all over, holes developing). They also put us an hour and a half away. I realized it was possible, but it still is annoying. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| Otherside wrote: |
| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| If she has a spare period or two why can't she just go to the bank and come back? If I do this to pay some bills, it's never counted as part of my time off. Why is her school being so @n@l? Is it like this over in the Daegu area? |
I can come and go as I please as long as I have my lessons done and back for class. Of course i don't abuse this. If i need to go to the bank then I tell my co-teacher and there's no problem. I've talked to other teachers in my area and some schools are real strict about it. In my first school here I was told I couldn't leave campus even for lunch. Now my teacher comes to me and says "We have no classes this afternoon so you can go home. See you tomorrow." |
If you want it to stay that way, I wouldn't post about it. Next some teachers will be complaining that they have a "friend" who can do this, and EPIK/GEPIK/WhicheverDistrictYouAreUnder will instruct all their schools that teachers are to be on school premises from 8:30-4:30 no matter what. Kinda like the ol' camp/vacation debacle. |
Been at this school for almost 4 years. It's semi-private and they kinda march to their own beat. There's a lot of give and take with us. I don't take advantage of them and they don't take advantage of me. |
Seriously keep it to yourself or you will regret it. |
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