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severence/ year-end bonus

 
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merryprankster



Joined: 05 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: severence/ year-end bonus Reply with quote

I've been working at the same hagwon for well over a year now and I'll be leaving after this (my 2nd) year. I know that I'm entitled to a month's worth of wages after one year. Should that be payed right after the completion of the first year or will I get two years worth of bonuses at severence?

My boss has been jerking some of the other teachers around and I want to make sure that I get what I'm entitled to- the hagwon isn't doing terribly well, but I've made too many sacrifices for this place to pass on the bonus.

Thanks

Dave
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have asked for the 'One-Year Severence Pay' when it was due: at the end of the one-year period. When I renewed at the same place I got my severence pay and airfare reimbursement with my last month's pay.

If he didn't pay you at that time I would suggest that you make him pay up as soon as possible. If you trust him to pay the total owing (eg. three months pay for your final pay check) you might want to take some precautions.......perhaps let him think that you'll be sticking around for a bit as a tourist or that you are taking another job so you'll be remaining in the country. It seems like an awful lot of directors say they'll send the money to you after you leave then conveniently 'forget' to do it.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you make more money your second year, your severence will be larger. Your severence is your average salary for the last three months of employment x the number of years you are employed. Let's say you work at a job for 3 years, making 2.0, 2.1, then 2.2 per month. If you take the severence every year, you would get 6.3 total, but if you wait until the end of 3 years, you would get 6.6. Technically, as you finish a new contract every year you could wait, or take the severence every year. The advantages of taking the severence every year are:

1. just in case your employer runs out of money,

2. you could invest it and make more money than if you wait, and

3. you may need the money now.



P.S. I hope this post was not too boring and predictable for readers from New Zealand. Wink, but at least it is educational.
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your boss is not required by law to pay you severance at the end of your first year if you re-sign continue to work there. If you think the situation is not looking good for getting it in the future, then start negotiating for it now. Would he even know that he doesn't have to pay it now?

And even if you don't complete another full 12 months, your boss is required to pay severence pro-rata for any additional time over the 12 month period Smile
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask him for your first years end of contract payment. Tell him you need to send it home to your mum and dad or some such story. Don't wait until your second contact is finished. He should have paid you at the completion of your first contract. Smile
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waterbaby wrote:
Your boss is not required by law to pay you severance at the end of your first year if you re-sign continue to work there. If you think the situation is not looking good for getting it in the future, then start negotiating for it now. Would he even know that he doesn't have to pay it now?

And even if you don't complete another full 12 months, your boss is required to pay severence pro-rata for any additional time over the 12 month period Smile


A coworker always got his severance after each year and then re-upped. After his third year the new management told him it was paid only at the end. When he went bye bye for good. Since he had already gotten it a couple times they didn't think they had to pay him a third time. The president he negotiated with was no longer there. They ended up paying him but laid him off after 2 weeks into his new contract. Sigh. He was a great guy to work with, although he tended to make a few waves.

The contracts we sign seem to indicate you're paid at the end of each contract (although that might not be the letter of the law):

"Upon on the completion of one full calendar year of employment with employer, employee will be given, exclusive of monthly salary payments, a bonus equal to the employee's final monthly salary. Korean severance tax will be withheld. This payment is made immediately following the completion of the contract."

In general, check what your contract says. Work the 1 month bonus into reupping for another year and get it written clearly into your contract. If you're a good teacher and they really need a western teacher, I would think it saves them a lot of headaches. What's it going to cost them to head hunt a new teacher, fly him over, etc.
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