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mayorgc
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No point calling Child Services.
The woman in Suwon called the cops and they showed up like hours later, knocking on the wrong door. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Plume D'ella Plumeria wrote: |
Eventually, after a few further nocturnal visits on my part...
...I'd see her out with the newborn and her toddler. She greeted me each time like her long lost best friend. |
I'll bet she did!
I know selective quoting is bad but couldn't resist. It's just the use of the word nocturnal lulz
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My mom left me at a dumpster when I was 5 in the states. After about 30 mins, she came back for me.
She told me she hid and watched just in case I did something stupid. |
Yeah I've heard of cases such as the above from others. It's amusing in retrospect. (I am not trying to condone the case in the first post, can't believe anyone would when a toddler is getting kicked.) |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| 119 is gonna be more likely to speak English than Child Services. The cops are the first line when it comes to domestic stuff. They will be the ones to call child services. |
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| The Sultan of Seoul wrote: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Sure byrddog....jump to conclusions based on ONE second hand online report.
I prefer to be a bit more cautious before involving child services and starting a legal process.
The EVENT itself was wrong and the adult acted wrongly, no debate or argument from me. However ONE EVENT does not make a trend, a conclusion or anything of the sort. That is all I am saying and the last thing I will say in this thread. Take care out there OP and you did well. |
Honestly, I couldn't live with myself if I witnessed child abuse, said to myself, you know what, it's just one time, I'll let it pass, and then discovered a week, or a month later the parent doing the same thing, or possibly even worse. But that's me. I'm funny that way, wanting to protect kids and all that. |
You don't get it do you AC?
You are... undergoing a malfunction of ... cognition.
Do not worry. Remain calm and stay at your computer.
The thought police team of myth, rails and ghb will be along soon to re-educate you and make sure you know how to correctly think and feel about all Korea related topics and issues.
Your thougths and feelings are simply just worng and you will want 2 plus to 2 equal 5 real soon, honestly, you will. |
Thanks for helping me get a grip. I promise not to have a thought meltdown like that again. |
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Eedoryeong
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:47 am Post subject: Re: My situation the other night. |
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What would you have done? |
I would have called the Korea Child Protection Agency. They would summon the cops with one of their agents. I reported once to them and they were crackerjack, wanted to know exactly where to appear, etc. It's a good group to know about but I don't know if they are everywhere in Korea. I know of the one in Busan because I was there at the time I needed them.
You should make the investment to talk to their Busan agency and find out if there is a branch in your area or what nearby branch most closely matches their mandate. If you're near farmland you've probably got Koreans married to internationals in which case there are most likely some outfits placed to address exactly this sort of thing.
Kicking a toddler in the chest. Boils my blood, it does. |
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Plume D'ella Plumeria
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Location: The Lost Horizon
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| Plume D'ella Plumeria wrote: |
Eventually, after a few further nocturnal visits on my part...
...I'd see her out with the newborn and her toddler. She greeted me each time like her long lost best friend. |
I'll bet she did!
I know selective quoting is bad but couldn't resist. It's just the use of the word nocturnal lulz
| oppa367 wrote: |
My mom left me at a dumpster when I was 5 in the states. After about 30 mins, she came back for me.
She told me she hid and watched just in case I did something stupid. |
Yeah I've heard of cases such as the above from others. It's amusing in retrospect. (I am not trying to condone the case in the first post, can't believe anyone would when a toddler is getting kicked.) |
Hilarious response to my post, Zyz. And to continue the hilarity, let me just relate that after a lifetime of heterosexuality, I went mad and just had to have my wild and wanton way with a woman not far off from birthing a baby. I crept through the keyhole, nocturnally of course, put a chloroformed rag over the abusive husband's snoring maw and well ...
The newborn, who is probably in middle-school by now, may just bear a slight resemblance to me ...
Also, what the heck does "lulz" mean? That, I can't quite work out |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think the OP did exactly what I would have done.
Remember, a lot of the process was just figuring stuff out. Was the kid locked out accidentally? Was it an issue of abuse? Is it safe for the kid?
All of this had to be sorted as the OP and neighbors worked through it.
I have a child around that age, and think that this was very bad parenting. Sure, put the kid in the bedroom for 10mins or so, but not outside. Way too much potential for more harm outside.
Just like its been discussed in other threads, discipline should not be about anger. |
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Malislamusrex
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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I would have done what the OP did, but I wouldn't have tried to get into the guys house. Maybe his father was trying to teach him a lesson.
A lot of people in this thread are saying it's child abuse. but in some countries like Korea leaving your kid outside probably isn't child abuse in the eyes of the law. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Malislamusrex wrote: |
I would have done what the OP did, but I wouldn't have tried to get into the guys house. Maybe his father was trying to teach him a lesson.
A lot of people in this thread are saying it's child abuse. but in some countries like Korea leaving your kid outside probably isn't child abuse in the eyes of the law. |
Fair enough. Yes, obviously the man/father was trying to teach the 2-3 year old a lesson by locking he/she outside. That isn't child abuse, that is neglect. Kicking a child in the chest is child abuse. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I think Malislamusrex kinda has a point. We don't know the full story. Did the father tell the kid to *beep* off for good, or did he just leave him outside for sometime? For all we know, the guy might have ended up simply beating the kid after letting him in.
Also how do you define child abuse anyway, and at what degree do you decide you need to intervene? I'm against parents hitting their kids but if I had to intervene at every instance of corporal punishment, it would never end. I also think letting your child become obese and indoctrinating them with your religious beliefs is a form of abuse, do I speak up when I see kids being dragged to church by their parents?
I do agree that it was good that at least the neighbors talked it out before making a decision. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| The Sultan of Seoul wrote: |
| oppa637 wrote: |
My mom left me at a dumpster when I was 5 in the states. After about 30 mins, she came back for me.
She told me she hid and watched just in case I did something stupid. |
Lol. What did you do for those five minutes, out of interest? LOl. |
Ahem...you were saying something about malfunction of cognition...do go on please... |
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The Sultan of Seoul
Joined: 17 Apr 2012
Location: right... behind.. YOU
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| The Sultan of Seoul wrote: |
| oppa637 wrote: |
My mom left me at a dumpster when I was 5 in the states. After about 30 mins, she came back for me.
She told me she hid and watched just in case I did something stupid. |
Lol. What did you do for those five minutes, out of interest? LOl. |
Ahem...you were saying something about malfunction of cognition...do go on please... |
What did you do for those 30 minutes, out of intrest?
Typo intentional |
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