|
Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
|
 Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
| Quote: |
| They not only said she has to take a personal day to set up an account, but her coteacher most go with her during school hours. That was always the issue and its even been pointed out by others on here that this was the issue. |
In the original post, it states:
"First, they wouldn't let her get her settlement allowance until she got her ARC because they said they would only do direct deposit."
That is why I am commenting on it.
As for opening a bank account, you can do that outside of working hours. Easier argument. Banks are open outside of working hours.
http://www.keb.co.kr/IBS/multi_lang/ncompany/eng/KBI1706P.jsp
Any other problems need to be solved before we complain about "bad" employers? Take responsibility folks. It's one thing to be unaware of your options, it's another to blame your school.
Why fight this when you can simply open your bank account on a different day? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
jacksthirty
Joined: 30 Nov 2009
|
| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| It is a tad unfair that she can't go and open a bank account during office hours (especially if she has no classes). OP, did she get internet banking set-up? If not that will require another trip. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
|
| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Tyshine wrote: |
| I can't believe someone is still arguing about the timing of the settlement allowance. While I think it should be paid early that was never the issue. We have enough money to get by just fine, and if it was that bad we have credit cards. We were more upset about how her school is treating her. They not only said she has to take a personal day to set up an account, but her coteacher most go with her during school hours. That was always the issue and its even been pointed out by others on here that this was the issue. Why some guy is arguing for worse treatment of employees is beyond me. Why even argue with a guy like that? |
Tyshine - you are absolutely right.
as I mentioned to another poster, it's 99% likely the Korean teachers are not being treated the same way as your gf and that's what should be the standard - it's always important that the NET fit in with the local culture at the school and if one is going to do that, one should be treated the same way. generally Korean teachers are allowed to sign out to go to the bank, or run an errand and sign in again when they return.
who knows why they are treating your gf this way - maybe they had another foreign teacher previously who disappeared for hours on end?
at any rate - let us know how it turns out - I remember my first year at ps there was an orientation and they signed everyone up at the bank then (except those of us who already had accounts) and we received our settlement allowances the first week of school. I guess your gf didn't have an orientation then? so no one helped her set up a bank acc.
also, as mentioned, if all else fails, go immediately after school before they close. I'm sure it will all be set up quickly. good luck! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
|
| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| YTMND wrote: |
Why fight this when you can simply open your bank account on a different day? |
why are you always so angry with everyone here?
China not quite that bed of roses, huh? (if you are even still there) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
|
| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
She has a bank account now, but I am not sure about the settlement allowance. Anyway she works until 4:30, and the banks that I have been to close at 4. Also her school said she most go with coteacher once she got her ARC. So the day she got her ARC (it was delivered to the school) her school said she has to go with her coteacher and open a bank account while taking half a personal day.
I don't know about KEB hours, but she would struggle to get there by 5 from her school's location. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
|
| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
| luckylady wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
Why fight this when you can simply open your bank account on a different day? |
why are you always so angry with everyone here?
China not quite that bed of roses, huh? (if you are even still there) |
I am not the one bitching about my employer. Actually, working for a Chinese employer is a lot better than a Korean employer, this thread illustrates such frustrations. Outside of the workplace, Koreans can be the best people to hang out with, but when you have them ruling over you, watch out.
And I just signed a contract 3 hours ago for a university job starting in September in Beijing, so no I am not angry at all. They have me hooked up with an officetel style apartment which is twice the size of the officetel I had in Korea and has an upstairs bathroom and a downstairs bathroom. I have never had 2 bathrooms in one apartment before, that's just for a normal one teacher job.
Why would people automatically assume I am angry because I use my money wisely  Oh well, I'll leave it at that.
Last edited by YTMND on Fri May 18, 2012 2:03 am; edited 2 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
|
| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Tyshine wrote: |
| I don't know about KEB hours, but she would struggle to get there by 5 from her school's location. |
If you go to that link I posted, you will see Sunday hours  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
|
| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
| YTMND wrote: |
| luckylady wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
Why fight this when you can simply open your bank account on a different day? |
why are you always so angry with everyone here?
China not quite that bed of roses, huh? (if you are even still there) |
I am not the one bitching about my employer. Actually, working for a Chinese employer is a lot better than a Korean employer, this thread illustrates such frustrations. Outside of the workplace, Koreans can be the best people to hang out with, but when you have them ruling over you, watch out.
And I just signed a contract 3 hours ago for a university job starting in September in Beijing, so no I am not angry at all. They have me hooked up with an officetel style apartment which is twice the size of the officetel I had in Korea and has an upstairs bathroom and a downstairs bathroom. I have never had 2 bathrooms in one apartment before, that's just for a normal one teacher job.
Why would people automatically assume I am angry because I use my money wisely Oh well, I'll leave it at that. |
Beijing huh? hope that job come with an air filter mask as well as an air purifier for your apt...  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
|
| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
| Beijing huh? hope that job come with an air filter mask as well as an air purifier for your apt |
Beijing = 6,487 sq miles / 16,801 km�
Seoul = 233.70 sq miles / 605.28 km�
Beijing is about 28 times the size of Seoul. Not all of Beijing is that bad. In the very center, it is like the Gangnam area in the southeastern part of Seoul, then you have districts around the central core districts. Beyond them are the third and fourth layers. I am in the fourth layer now, which means fresh vegetables every day. I never experienced that in Pyeongtaek, Gyeonggido area. The mountain area is beautiful like the eastern part of Korea and I don't have to travel 4 hours.
Dirty air? Where do you think they measure this dirty air? Which layer of the 6.5 thousand square miles do they report and which layers are not accounted for? The truth is, in winter, it was awful on a few days (due to them using coal), but before and after the air has been perfectly fine compared to the highly congested nicotine (second hand smoke) environments I was exposed to in Korea (and Japan).
Did you know people run marathons in Beijing? And that's in the central part too!!
This is like measuring the conditions in one part of central Seoul, take Gwanghwamun (since that is where the American Embassy is) as an example and saying since the conditions are bad there it must bad in Bundang. Now multiply that by 28 times the distance!!! Are you kidding me?
Do you honestly think the air is that bad outside of the central part of Beijing? Apparently you haven't looked into it. I avoid the bad areas anywhere I go.
The poor diet and food in restaurants in China (and America) are probably bigger health risks. You don't have to always eat what is bad. Avoid the American McDonald's, avoid the salty Chinese foods. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
|
| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| YTMND wrote: |
| Quote: |
| Beijing huh? hope that job come with an air filter mask as well as an air purifier for your apt |
Beijing = 6,487 sq miles / 16,801 km�
Seoul = 233.70 sq miles / 605.28 km�
|
you just don't know when to quit huh? or how to laugh apparently either...
btw, I've been to Beijing, as I think many on this board have; couldn't pay me enough money to live/work there for anything but to each her own. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
|
| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 12:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
| luckylady wrote: |
| I've been to Beijing |
Where in Beijing? Again, as shown, Beijing is a huge area. I know you want to impose your false conclusions and make blanket statements.
To make my position along the same line as yours, I don't like Shanghai.
I'll even make it closer to yours, it was partly due to the air pollution. However, how come I don't have the same problems in Beijing when people like yourself consider it much worse than Shanghai?
The reason is that I lived right in the center of Shanghai, near People's Square. That's where the air quality is the worst. The same with Beijing.
The center is the worst, but not all of Beijing is bad. Try to find an average of air pollution readings in all districts, then see the distribution. Look and see if Chaoyang isn't the highest in the center. Like rainfall, you will see there are places where the air is cleaner much like months with less rainfall. Chaoyang is to June/July, as the outer districts are to January/December.
If you don't like Beijing for personal reasons like I don't like Shanghai, then that's perfectly your choice, but don't make blanket statements about any city until you have your facts. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
|
| Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
you do know there's a China forum, right?
somehow almost every post you make over here winds up being about your grandiose job(s) and how great you find living in one of the world's most polluted and human rights-restricted countries pleasant and delightful.
in other words, it's really getting old. fast. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
oppa637
Joined: 05 Dec 2011
|
| Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| If you don't like your job, quit. I don't see the point of complaining. Unless its in the contract, you are to work on the hours they pay you for. Quite simple. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
|
| Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
you do know there's a China forum, right?
somehow almost every post you make over here winds up being about your grandiose job(s) and how great you find living in one of the world's most polluted and human rights-restricted countries pleasant and delightful.
in other words, it's really getting old. fast. |
You are the one who started it with your bed of roses comment. The first two pages had no reference to China. Is that why you brought it up, so you could later make this comment?
What is the point? Stay on topic and talk about what was addressed on those pages, because they pertained more to the original poster's comments than our experiences in China which I agree are off topic.
In summary:
1. You should wait to get your 300,000 settlement allowance until your first pay date.
2. You should go on a different day that you don't work to set up a bank account.
Both of these suggestions are meant to avoid confrontations with your employer and still get what you need and are owed.
As a personal preference, as I want to end this "fighting", I don't like China or Korea more. There are pros and cons to each which I will save for another thread.
I think I have addressed my viewpoints regarding the original poster's concerns. If anyone else doesn't like them, I am sorry, but those are my viewpoints. It doesn't mean you shouldn't put up a fight if you want. It doesn't mean you shouldn't argue to be allowed to leave school to open up a bank account. However, you might encounter some problems along the way.
I am merely trying to help newcomers avoid them so they can have a better first year. After you realize you can put up a fight at times, we experienced teachers might want to "pull our weight" to make exceptions to the rules I suggested. As a newcomer, you shouldn't just fight for the sake of fighting to get what you want. Look to the alternatives also and consider all your options. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
