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Are you the only foreigner?
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I'm the sole waygook
Yes
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 63%  [ 33 ]
No
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 36%  [ 19 ]
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the only one before but found it too strange. Perhaps it was the location and the students too. It was outside Seoul in a small town. Middle and high school students who hadn't met a foreigner before. I felt out of the loop at that place. Only one guy could speak English and translate the boss and everyone else. They just ignored me except for awkward smiles due to the language thing. So it sucked. Just to feel like I'm not a total weirdo it is good to have another waegook around.
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Eazy_E



Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Location: British Columbia, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
Was the only one before but found it too strange. Perhaps it was the location and the students too. It was outside Seoul in a small town. Middle and high school students who hadn't met a foreigner before. I felt out of the loop at that place. Only one guy could speak English and translate the boss and everyone else. They just ignored me except for awkward smiles due to the language thing. So it sucked. Just to feel like I'm not a total weirdo it is good to have another waegook around.


That sounds almost exactly like my situation. Not that I'm unhappy... it's just too awkward and isolating to be the only foreigner in your town and school. People might say "oh that's a great way to learn Korean and meet the locals", but all it does is invite more gawking and nervous "hello"s. Some people are genuinely nice and friendly, but it's just really weird most of the time.

Teaching adults and living in a bigger city where you can join clubs is probably the best way to make Korean friends, I figure. The contract is up in four months.... Laughing
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I wish I was the only foreigner. Most other waeguks are OK, but there is always one that completely sucks.
i'm talking about the alchaholic bingo playing a**hole that all the Koreans think is so "chaaarming".
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed often at shcools with many foreigners, there seems to be one who always complains.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kangnamdragon wrote:
noticed often at shcools with many foreigners, there seems to be one who always complains.

There is a much better chance that way i would suppose.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are pros and cons to being the only foreigner but in general, I much prefer it like this than having foreign co-workers.

The pros are that you don't have to be around people who constantly comlain about Korea, Koreans, and any small thing that they feel infringes on their rights or isn't the same as in their home country. In my last job I also had a run-in with a "freaky" foreigner who was in the process of having ANOTHER nervous breakdown (she was hospitalised one time previous and sent home from Korea after a 3 month stay in Daegu 2 years ago), and she zoomed in on me as a target.

The cons are that the Korean coworkers don't keep me in the loop very well and are generally unhelpful. They talk about me all the time in Korean which sometimes really peeves me as I have explained to them several times that I understand Korean pretty well. They had two foreigners previously who never botehred to learn a lick of Korean, not even their students' names, so they don't see the problem with talkng about me or addressing me as waeguk sonsangnim instead of my name. Anyways, this is still pretty liveable as I don't have a problem with just asking them for what I need and telling them my preferences on how I am treated. They aren't really used to foreigners since it is a rather new school so they aren't really aware of how to treat address me, etc.

Anyways, it is nice because I can generally just come to school, do my work, and leave without any "worry-makers" (the people who create stress and problems in your life), interfering in my sanity along the way.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work alongside another foreigner who is the most useless teacher and all-round pain in the rear...he drinks constantly and is always late for work, and complains constantly as well as hates / is racist to all the Koreans.
Stupidly, they all love him and think he is the most charming handsome boy ever.
How dumb are Koreans??Is there any limit?
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Cogito



Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Location: Around

PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm "the one and only" waygook at school Cool and I prefer it that way. Unfortunately I still have to share the apartment wih another Crying or Very sad .

Does that make me an "anti-social jackass" (credit to another poster for creating this phrase)?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
/ is racist to all the Koreans.
How dumb are Koreans??Is there any limit?





I hate to break it to you, but that guy you see in the mirror is not another foreigner.... Rolling Eyes
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matthewwoodford



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well a string of remarkably similar posts. I have to say that all the waygooks where I work are nice, normal, non-alcoholic, socially functional, non-complaining, easygoing people and pretty good teachers too. The Korean staff are great too. I can relate to all the people saying they like to be on their own though cos I'm anti-social too.
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yodanole



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:09 pm    Post subject: Otis Campbell Reply with quote

Apparently. I work with either Draven or Rapier, but I'm too intoxicated to remember which one.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too am an only foreigner and like kangnamdragon I prefer it that way. I don't have to experience Draven's alcoholic loser, rapier's completely sucking bingo-playing chaaarming drunkard and katydid's college buddies.

I notice that alias fears sharing an office with a freaky waygook, badmojo fears working with an incompetent loser, and kangnamdragon fears working with a complainer.

I also appreciate the freedom from weird, whiny slackers.
osangirl wrote:
I think other foreigners breed negativity.

Ya think?
Easy_E wrote:
Being the only foreigner at my school is definitely isolating... but that's not the same as being lonely.

Exactly. You needn't be an introvert like sistersarah to work at a one-foreigner place. Sure, you can't equal the sort of stimulating dinner conversation that rylees pines for, but there's plenty of opportunity for socializing and communication with Koreans, especially co-workers.
Easy_E wrote:
Living in a bigger city where you can join clubs is probably the best way to make Korean friends, I figure

I don't understand. That's exactly the wrong way to meet other Koreans, I figure. I imagine these English-starved Seoulites trolling clubs for English friends and am full of dread. Even if this image is off the mark, smaller communities are full of chances to make Korean friends, as I've experienced in my community as well on my travels through other small communities. I have made some friends and had some good times with small-town Koreans; I have yet to make a Korean friend in Busan or even Mokpo, though odd-seeming Koreans in those cities have tried to be pushy in becoming friends.
Shawner88 wrote:
This kind of makes me a celebrity. Almost everywhere I go people are so friendly to me.

That's been my experience.
jajdude wrote:
Was the only one before but found it too strange... I felt out of the loop at that place.

Loop? What loop?
jazblanc77 wrote:
The Korean coworkers don't keep me in the loop very well

I didn't know there was a loop. I'm in my thirties and not interested in sophomoric drunkfests on the weekends, nor squabbling, gossipy circles of ego grandstanders (other than from a digital distance at Dave's), if that's what you mean.
fidel wrote:
I do miss shooting the bull with another waygook from a similiar cultural background who understands all the nuances of what I am babbling about.

Yeah. I miss having good one-on-one chatty conversations with intelligent, fluent English speakers. The best banter I have had in Korea was with a 9-year-old Australian girl while giving her and her mom a sightseeing tour of the island.
mathewwoodford wrote:
all the waygooks where I work are nice, normal, non-alcoholic, socially functional, non-complaining, easygoing people and pretty good teachers too

Let us know when there's a job opening. Some of us might want to apply.
Corporal wrote:
Are you the only foreigner at your school? Do you like it that way?

Well, are you going to answer your own questions?
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought " feeling out of the loop" was an expression meaning out of touch with things or with what's going on. Since all but one of the Koreans could not speak English worth a damn, and my Korean sucks, that's how I felt as the only waegook there.
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