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tideout
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| Don't take the job so seriously. Really. You are only the kids teacher, you aren't their parents, you're only teaching them maybe one hour a day or whatever. Don't think you are so important in their lives. They probably have 10 teachers. |
I'm sure cedarseoul can speak for him/her self but I don't think it's an issue of taking the job too seriously. I have to say, just figuring out basic routines and expectations can be mindnumbingly hard to read and part of the burnout/get out factor here. |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: "Why don't you smile more?" |
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 = the expression I'm more likely to get caught with. The madness is so expected that it's just not madness anymore. Compartmentalize it. Madness -> triggered by stupidity -> smile at the stupidity. Show pity. If in a bad mood, just roll your eyes or press your tongue against your lower lip - I do that all the time outside of school to condescend offending Koreans. |
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DejaVu
Joined: 27 Jan 2011
Location: Your dreams
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I can't believe so many people are bashing the OP...
I suppose if he's in an elementary hagwon then he should worry more about his smile. But if he's in a PS middle school or something, that's completely different.
I don't know the situation.
Anyways, I find that I rarely smile in this neck of the woods. |
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soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:05 am Post subject: |
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I actually got told this, but in a different way... at a kindergarten I worked at, they told me "Smile no matter what the students do. If they are bad and fighting and running around with pencils in their hands (a common and scary occurrence with the little ones) just SMILE~! Never show your anger or sadness or any emotion other than HAPPINESS!"
I can understand for the most part, but they really didn't want the students to ever feel they had done something wrong... it was a bad way to teach, and there were a lot of fights and ridiculousness because of it. If this is the case with the OP... get ready to smile like an idiot all the time. T.T "Oh~ are you punching your classmate again? Oh! You're riding him like he's a horse? Oh my~~ let's not do that~~ 
There are some people who smile constantly, even when nothing is happening... this is what most bosses like to see. So, again... get ready for smile town |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| smile town is nice, but ^_^ town is much more serene. Unf0rtun@te!ly, !t's l0c@ted in @ d!fferent [0untry. ^<>^. Let's $mile together, peeps (o_o). I obviously need [Mod Edit] with more emoticons. keke. Those three sentences took me forever to type. |
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Squire
Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| To hell with that. I understand they want the foreigner to be the class clown, a role normally taken by a student, but I won't do it. Keeping my dignity is more important. So is setting an example to the kids of how an adult is meant to behave |
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plhanlon85
Joined: 27 May 2011
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| smiling never hurt anyone. |
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Squire
Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
Teaching at a kid's hagwon advice:
Appearance > skill and just about everything else.
| Squire wrote: |
| To hell with that. I understand they want the foreigner to be the class clown, a role normally taken by a student, but I won't do it. Keeping my dignity is more important. So is setting an example to the kids of how an adult is meant to behave |
I'm like you. I got fired from my previous job for it.
I recommend going to a public school or teaching adults, I don't think your personality is suited for working at a hagwon. |
Thankfully I don't work at a hagwon, or I probably wouldn't be there for long! One of my coteachers asked me to smile all of the time at the start of the year, I explained why that would be a problem with discipline, she disregarded it and asked me again (which I ignored) and she hasn't pushed the issue. Her style of discipline is to stand at the front of the class smiling obliviously, which is probably as effective as not being there at all. |
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Nismo
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Squire wrote: |
| To hell with that. I understand they want the foreigner to be the class clown, a role normally taken by a student, but I won't do it. Keeping my dignity is more important. So is setting an example to the kids of how an adult is meant to behave |
I hate when I'm in a bar and a pretty girl is a class clown at me. Flippin' ridiculous! Or when I go to order food at a restaurant, and the waiters are class clowns at me. Get a life! |
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Squire
Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Nismo wrote: |
| Squire wrote: |
| To hell with that. I understand they want the foreigner to be the class clown, a role normally taken by a student, but I won't do it. Keeping my dignity is more important. So is setting an example to the kids of how an adult is meant to behave |
I hate when I'm in a bar and a pretty girl is a class clown at me. Flippin' ridiculous! Or when I go to order food at a restaurant, and the waiters are class clowns at me. Get a life! |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Squire wrote: |
| Nismo wrote: |
| I hate when I'm in a bar and a pretty girl is a class clown at me. Flippin' ridiculous! Or when I go to order food at a restaurant, and the waiters are class clowns at me. Get a life! |
What? |
I think he's about 3 verbs short of a sarcasm. |
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Nismo
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Squire wrote: |
| Nismo wrote: |
| Squire wrote: |
| To hell with that. I understand they want the foreigner to be the class clown, a role normally taken by a student, but I won't do it. Keeping my dignity is more important. So is setting an example to the kids of how an adult is meant to behave |
I hate when I'm in a bar and a pretty girl is a class clown at me. Flippin' ridiculous! Or when I go to order food at a restaurant, and the waiters are class clowns at me. Get a life! |
What? |
You were equating smiling with acting the clown. I was running with it. |
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Squire
Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| Nismo wrote: |
| Squire wrote: |
| Nismo wrote: |
| Squire wrote: |
| To hell with that. I understand they want the foreigner to be the class clown, a role normally taken by a student, but I won't do it. Keeping my dignity is more important. So is setting an example to the kids of how an adult is meant to behave |
I hate when I'm in a bar and a pretty girl is a class clown at me. Flippin' ridiculous! Or when I go to order food at a restaurant, and the waiters are class clowns at me. Get a life! |
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You were equating smiling with acting the clown. I was running with it. |
Oh I see, very good 
I don't think it's crazy to assume that a school asking it's teacher to smile more indicates that they probably want an ESL monkey/class clown rather than a serious, professionally behaving teacher. I can't imagine any of the teachers I had at school being expected to smile more. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 am Post subject: |
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There is a vast difference between smiling and being a clown Squire.
I am sure you are well aware of this! |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| DejaVu wrote: |
I can't believe so many people are bashing the OP...
I suppose if he's in an elementary hagwon then he should worry more about his smile. But if he's in a PS middle school or something, that's completely different.
I don't know the situation.
Anyways, I find that I rarely smile in this neck of the woods. |
I am an ex-GEPIK middle school teacher but now teaching Kindy and elementary school aged kids in Beijing. |
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