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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: do you work saturday? Reply with quote

In another thread a poster was talking about having trouble attracting people, which was attributed to working on saturday. So who is working on saturday anyway? Did you volunteer and get overtime is it part of your contract.

I come in one saturday a month for club activity day to help the kids with the english for the drama competition. I volunteered for it, and don't get overtime but chances are that the good will I built up with this will allow me some extra vacation time down the line.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, not at present
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Crois



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way would I work Saturdays but i jumped into my first contract so I am glad I dont work Saturdays.

But then again there would be an hour less everyday to work but i think i'd prefer the extra day.
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oneiros



Joined: 19 Aug 2003
Location: Villa Straylight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not anymore, as I mentioned on the other thread.

I did last year, and it wasn't in my contract. I sort of volunteered, but under a lot of pressure and guilt tactics from my school. I'd worked for them for a year, and the director had helped me out on a few occasions, so I guess I was more willing to give in.

I didn't have reduced hours during the week, even though I was the only foreign teacher doing Saturdays.
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lush72



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope- but I (sometimes) feel bad about that!
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll only agree to a 5 day work week be it SSMTW or WTFSS. Don't matter to me. Just so long I get two days off. Working on the day off? With pay, yes. For free? Nope. Not even for good will. The school owners, most at least, could care less about good will. They only think about money. I figure that as long as the students are paying the school for an extra day, then I should be paid also. Why should the school pocket all the money?
Doing good will in the past only came back to bite me in the rear end on may occasions. I know of many teachers in korea who did good will teaching only to not be paid severance, air fare after completing the contract!
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
I'll Working on the day off? With pay, yes. For free? Nope. Not even for good will. The school owners, most at least, could care less about good will. They only think about money. I figure that as long as the students are paying the school for an extra day, then I should be paid also. Why should the school pocket all the money?

My school is a public school, and in general they are pretty cool about leave requests during the break as long as you do your vacation classes at some point, but I agree it's different than from the hogwons, where some directors will use your good will and return it with nothing.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have worked some Saturdays, but as a rule no. If it's stated in the job ad that they expect Saturday classes from me, I just keep looking.
Expecially teaching young kids in a hagwan, (or anywhere else for that matter) you need 2 days off. On the few occasions where I did work
Saturdays, I always felt it the following week. Even just one Saturday class can easily ruin an otherwise relaxing weekend.

If schools really need someone to work Saturdays, they can hire a part-timer. I suppose if you are very energetic and more concerned about making money, then working Saturdays may be OK for you. I'm too old for that nonsense. Life is too short, and they don't pay enough to teach Saturday classes anyway. I told my last boss that I needed Saturdays to do my shopping/laundry. On Sundays, a lot of places are closed, and there's not enough time to do shopping and laundry all in one day.

They seemed to understand that, they didn't like it, but they couldn't really argue about it.

I've heard stories of teachers being forced to work Saturdays. They were threatened with firing/deportation if they refused. That's never happened to me, but I think if it ever does, I will say fine--- fire me. Confused

If you let them push you around they will.
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over my dead and rotting corpse.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first year contract, I worked 6 days a week with Saturdays, working 4-5 hour days. My next school, I worked Monday-Friday, 6 hour days. It may not seem like a big difference, but I noticed a distinct difference in my energy levels (ie., had a lot more pep to go out and stay out late after a 4 hr stretch vs. the 6 hour shifts. But yes, you have the weekend to rest up on the M-F shift. To each their own.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First year yes.

Last two years and this one no.

But. I would consider working saturday morning to earn some extra cash as my fiance usually has to work and I am always up anyway.

If my scholl wanted me to, then no, I wouldn't work on saturdays there.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lush72 wrote:
Nope- but I (sometimes) feel bad about that!


I understand. I don't work on Saturdays, and finally, my coworkers stopped last month. We are now a 5-day per week office.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kangnamdragon wrote:
lush72 wrote:
Nope- but I (sometimes) feel bad about that!


I understand. I don't work on Saturdays, and finally, my coworkers stopped last month. We are now a 5-day per week office.


What is your office?
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aussie col



Joined: 31 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saturdays? Never again!!!

I was working at a new school and wasn't actually doing 30, 45 minute classes a week... more like 25 classes a week. So I couldn't complain much when the director kept telling me to come on Saturday because maybe I would have a class. I went every Saturday for 5 months without actually having a class. Would just turn up and find out that I had no students and would go home. I couldn't complain but it really did suck. Wasted my whole day because the 'class' was at 3pm.

I lived in Daegu but didn't get to have a good look around Seoul until after my contract ended because I never had time. Every weekend was only one day so not enough time to travel far and back.

Excuse this post. I've had a few red wines and it doesn't even make much sense to me. But i just had to give my 2 cents worth.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby wrote:
kangnamdragon wrote:
lush72 wrote:
Nope- but I (sometimes) feel bad about that!


I understand. I don't work on Saturdays, and finally, my coworkers stopped last month. We are now a 5-day per week office.


What is your office?


I work for a company.
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