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Koreans Clueless about Animals???
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roguefishfood



Joined: 21 May 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: Koreans Clueless about Animals??? Reply with quote

As I previously mentioned, I recently adopted a dog. It was a great decision, he's awesome, and I plan to have him forever. If I move within the country or leave Korea, he goes with me, etc. It's been less than a month and I can't imagine life without him.

It's the PEOPLE that drive me nuts.

When he was found by the shelter he was missing a leg. All the vet can say is that it wasn't gone at birth, he lost it, and nobody knows how, but the current theory is one of the many jerks on motorcycles speeding down the sidewalk.

When we go for walks, people call him, cluck at him, tease him, walk up to him and just start touching him, etc. WITHOUT ENGAGING ME AT ALL. This includes people whizzing by on bikes!! Why would you call a stranger's dog when you're on a motorcycle!?

They don't acknowledge me one bit, let alone make any indication of asking for permission to touch him or if he's friendly. He IS friendly, he loves people and wouldn't hurt a fly, but they don't know that!

Where I'm from, even uncouth people are taught as kids that you should be careful around people's pets, talk to the person first, ask if they're friendly/if it's ok to pet them, let the dog smell your hand first, then pet him gently on the side. Does no one learn this etiquette here?

It seems selfish, rude, and ignorant to behave the way people of all ages do around a dog. I can't tell if it's a Korean thing or if it's because I'm a foreigner. Even if they tried to talk to me in Korean that I didn't understand, I'd appreciate the effort rather than ignoring me and messing with my dog.

People have mostly been nice to me and warm and helpful here in Korea, until I'm out with my dog, when they suddenly turn ignorant and rude. I keep an extremely short leash not because I think he's going to run away but because I feel like I can't trust anyone and I need to be able to pull him away or scoop him up in a hurry at all times.

Any thoughts?
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lost one leg? Sounds like the previous owners eyes were bigger than his stomach. Gives a new meaning to the term "doggie bag"
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many do that to children too (touching without permission).
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a Korean thing. Once some old dude tried to poke my grandmother's dog in the eye while she was walking it. He said he was just playing around. I can't speak for that particular weirdo but I doubt they're trying to be disrespectul on purpose. They do the same thing to eachother.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Koreans Clueless about Animals??? Reply with quote

roguefishfood wrote:

Where I'm from, even uncouth people are taught as kids that you should be careful around people's pets, talk to the person first, ask if they're friendly/if it's ok to pet them, let the dog smell your hand first, then pet him gently on the side. Does no one learn this etiquette here?


Back home there are many dogs which are a bit more intimidating than a maltese poodle dyed pink.

I'm pretty sure if your dog was an angry, growling doberman he'd get a bit more respect.
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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering this is a country that abandons dogs with impunity when they are no longer sufficiently cute and/or if they just get bored with them and/or their new SO doesn't like them and/or the trend that led to buying the dog reverses itself; considering that, I can't believe you are surprised.

Koreans seem to think pets are sort of like moving stuffed animals, not living creatures. Very few of them seem to understand that small cute puppies typically get larger over time. About 85% of them that I see actually CARRY the dogs around in purses, satchels or backpacks. My dog in America would have gone crazy if I'd taken her outside and not let her WALK.

They have major issues with animals here. Clueless is the polite word for it. Callous to the point of cruelty is another word I'd use. It's sadly typical due to the obsession with 'cute' and mindless trend-following and thoughtless pursuit of idle whims.
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actionjackson



Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Location: Any place I'm at

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:
Clueless is the polite word for it.


I think this pretty much sums it up. My girlfriend and I spent a few months in Chicago and she would just march right up to any ol' dog and just start petting it. I had to explain to her how things worked and that some dogs aren't particularly friendly to people they don't know, after the talking to, she was always kind enough to ask people first if she could pet their dog, though she still has a thing for touching other people's babies and that drives me crazy.
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One time I was on the subway with my cat. She was in a hard-case and some mom and little kid come over to peer inside and say hello. Which was fine. Until the mom (and then the kid encouraged by the mom) start banging their fists on the top of the case because my kitty was sleeping and not being entertaining enough I guess. A loud and angry "Ha-ji-ma" put an end to it. Stupid people. It's ridiculous.
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roguefishfood



Joined: 21 May 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hokie21 wrote:
Lost one leg? Sounds like the previous owners eyes were bigger than his stomach. Gives a new meaning to the term "doggie bag"


Probably should not be laughing at that but I am... the mental picture is hilarious. Laughing The vet at the shelter said it was either a bike accident or some kind of abuse, since they had other reasons to believe he may have been abused before he was abandoned. (You wouldn't know it now, he adores everyone he meets and is the picture of friendly, perky health. Very Happy)
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed that many Koreans I've met are afraid of big dogs. Small dogs are ok for them. There is also a belief that certain dogs are vicious.

What have others heard about this?
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:
They have major issues with (foreigners) here. Clueless is the polite word for it. Callous to the point of cruelty is another word I'd use. It's sadly typical due to the obsession with 'cute' and mindless trend-following and thoughtless pursuit of idle whims.


There are a few words you could replace 'animals' with in that statement and still come out with just about the same sentiment. Wink
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Chalmers



Joined: 20 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you mean tying a dog to a tree for its entire life isn't ok?
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