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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: High demand for jobs - Will I ever get a Job? Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
adamweldon wrote:
I have had recent correspondence with about two recruitment agencies saying that getting a Job in Korea is almost impossible if you do not have a Post graduate Degree (Masters) and therefor have been offered Jobs in Georgia which I am not interested in.

But in truth is it really going to be impossible.

I am applying now for August/September/October Job

I am 23 and have an Honours Degree from a top 10 university in England in Multimedia & Digital Systems.

Only a short stunt of a month teaching maths in a school in england and a lot of experience coaching cricket to children in South Africa, Ireland and the UK

I am also in the process of doing an i-to-i 140 hours combined TEFL course.

I really want to get over to Korea to either Seoul or Busan, or any other major city. But I also want to be realistic as I am a first time applicant.

What are my chances because at the moment I feel like I'm taking one step forward and two back?

Thank you for any help

p.s. This forum is fantastic and I have found heaps of info already.


Sounds like "Foorprints" trying to get you to take a bad job no one wants. You can come over here, just use another recruiter and tell them to quit lying to you.


Laughing That is what I initially thought too when I read the original post. I see that the OP mentioned that it was Teach Away, which makes sense too.

OP, recruiters suck for the most part (which is why I have never secured/taken a job through one). Try to do it on your own if possible.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: High demand for jobs - Will I ever get a Job? Reply with quote

adamweldon wrote:

I am 23 and have an Honours Degree from a top 10 university in England in Multimedia & Digital Systems. .


You didn't tell us the crucial information however.

1) Nationality? If you are south african, kiwi, ozzie or Irish then you go to the back of the qeue I'm afraid. If you are british then you still are considered behind americans or canadians. Of which there are now tens of thousands flooding the market.
2) Appearance. Blonde and blue eyed will get your further, faster. Not to mention general attractiveness. Not to mention that guys are of course less in demand than women.
3) Visa eligibility. Do you have all the relevant documents up-to-date and ready?
4) Photo. You will need a decent photo, this is mega-important. Its the first thing the recruiter looks at. If you don't impress within a millisecond, then...you get thrown to the bottom of the pile.
5) Preference. If you only want to teach adults in Seoul or Busan then you will have to wait a loooong time. If you're willing to teach anywhere then you stand a much better chance.

Give us some further details then we'll be able to better advise you...
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adamweldon



Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Dublin, Joburg, London, Limassol

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: High demand for jobs - Will I ever get a Job? Reply with quote

Julius wrote:

You didn't tell us the crucial information however.

1) Nationality? If you are south african, kiwi, ozzie or Irish then you go to the back of the qeue I'm afraid. If you are british then you still are considered behind americans or canadians. Of which there are now tens of thousands flooding the market.
2) Appearance. Blonde and blue eyed will get your further, faster. Not to mention general attractiveness. Not to mention that guys are of course less in demand than women.
3) Visa eligibility. Do you have all the relevant documents up-to-date and ready?
4) Photo. You will need a decent photo, this is mega-important. Its the first thing the recruiter looks at. If you don't impress within a millisecond, then...you get thrown to the bottom of the pile.
5) Preference. If you only want to teach adults in Seoul or Busan then you will have to wait a loooong time. If you're willing to teach anywhere then you stand a much better chance.


This is a good point I should of told you

1] I hold duel citizenship to both Ireland and South Africa
2] Im a pretty tall guy 6'2"/187cm like dirty blondish brown, blue eyes not to be big headed but generally a decent looking person. (I think lol)
3] I have all the documents, I just need them certified and apostle etc.
4] good photo thats sorted.
5] I Actually don't mind what age group I teach, but I would like to be close to a major city if possible. ( I don't know if that is to much to ask for?)

What are the chances of public schools with the information provided? (Just a query)
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bet you play rugby or cricket huh?

be sure and list interest in sports/coaching - that will help a lot for ps -

when you post photos, be sure to include several with kids in them (teaching them, activities of sorts)

that's always a big plus -

89 unis huh? shocking! where do they all fit?? Laughing
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adamweldon



Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Dublin, Joburg, London, Limassol

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huge Rugby and cricket fan and play an awful lot! Getting back into soccer too haha Smile

Well I spoke to Sarah at Korean Horizons she phoned me today and said I don't qualify to teach in Public schools in Major cities (in specific Busan) as I do not have a masters but I could get in if I took a CELTA course of 100 hours and NOT and Combined online/offline course it must all be offline..

otherwise I can teach in rural area with a BSc plus a combined tefl course if I want... but I am not so keen on a Rural position...

So another setback those CELTA courses are like �1300 !

I think I may stick with i-to-i combined and sacrifice finding a good Hagwon to teach at and just suck it up and hope for the best.... lol ahhh my spirits are still high but Public almost seems at a lost cause.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamweldon wrote:
at Korean Horizons she phoned me today and said I don't qualify to teach in Public schools in Major cities (in specific Busan) as I do not have a masters but I could get in if I took a CELTA course of 100 hours and NOT and Combined online/offline course it must all be offline.. .


They must have upped the ante then because 3 years ago you did not even need experience to get into a public school in seoul. They took anyone with a BA and a pulse.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamweldon wrote:
Huge Rugby and cricket fan and play an awful lot! Getting back into soccer too haha Smile

Well I spoke to Sarah at Korean Horizons she phoned me today and said I don't qualify to teach in Public schools in Major cities (in specific Busan) as I do not have a masters but I could get in if I took a CELTA course of 100 hours and NOT and Combined online/offline course it must all be offline..

otherwise I can teach in rural area with a BSc plus a combined tefl course if I want... but I am not so keen on a Rural position...

So another setback those CELTA courses are like �1300 !

I think I may stick with i-to-i combined and sacrifice finding a good Hagwon to teach at and just suck it up and hope for the best.... lol ahhh my spirits are still high but Public almost seems at a lost cause.


A Master a CELTA for 1300 pounds? Has the pay for Busan gone up to 3 or 4 million won a month? Think she's being a b!ch. ANy other recruiters to use?

I was actually thinking of applying there next year, but I have none of the above. Although I do have a few years public school experience teaching here in Korea.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: High demand for jobs - Will I ever get a Job? Reply with quote

adamweldon wrote:
Julius wrote:

You didn't tell us the crucial information however.

1) Nationality? If you are south african, kiwi, ozzie or Irish then you go to the back of the qeue I'm afraid. If you are british then you still are considered behind americans or canadians. Of which there are now tens of thousands flooding the market.
2) Appearance. Blonde and blue eyed will get your further, faster. Not to mention general attractiveness. Not to mention that guys are of course less in demand than women.
3) Visa eligibility. Do you have all the relevant documents up-to-date and ready?
4) Photo. You will need a decent photo, this is mega-important. Its the first thing the recruiter looks at. If you don't impress within a millisecond, then...you get thrown to the bottom of the pile.
5) Preference. If you only want to teach adults in Seoul or Busan then you will have to wait a loooong time. If you're willing to teach anywhere then you stand a much better chance.


This is a good point I should of told you

1] I hold duel citizenship to both Ireland and South Africa
2] Im a pretty tall guy 6'2"/187cm like dirty blondish brown, blue eyes not to be big headed but generally a decent looking person. (I think lol)
3] I have all the documents, I just need them certified and apostle etc.
4] good photo thats sorted.
5] I Actually don't mind what age group I teach, but I would like to be close to a major city if possible. ( I don't know if that is to much to ask for?)

What are the chances of public schools with the information provided? (Just a query)


SHOULD'VE = SHOULD HAVE.

/Spelling and grammar are something to consider when teaching English. Nice that you're pretty, though.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: High demand for jobs - Will I ever get a Job? Reply with quote

adamweldon wrote:
1] I hold duel citizenship to both Ireland and South Africa
2] Im a pretty tall guy 6'2"/187cm like dirty blondish brown, blue eyes not to be big headed but generally a decent looking person. (I think lol)
3] I have all the documents, I just need them certified and apostle etc.
4] good photo thats sorted.
5] I Actually don't mind what age group I teach, but I would like to be close to a major city if possible. ( I don't know if that is to much to ask for?)

What are the chances of public schools with the information provided? (Just a query)


I'd say pretty good. If you're set on public schools, use Korvia. They only recruit for public schools. There are a lot of people trying to get those positions and you'll have to get the timing right with certain documents and their expiration dates (ie: the CRC).
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamweldon wrote:
Huge Rugby and cricket fan and play an awful lot! Getting back into soccer too haha Smile

Well I spoke to Sarah at Korean Horizons she phoned me today and said I don't qualify to teach in Public schools in Major cities (in specific Busan) as I do not have a masters but I could get in if I took a CELTA course of 100 hours and NOT and Combined online/offline course it must all be offline..

otherwise I can teach in rural area with a BSc plus a combined tefl course if I want... but I am not so keen on a Rural position...

So another setback those CELTA courses are like �1300 !

I think I may stick with i-to-i combined and sacrifice finding a good Hagwon to teach at and just suck it up and hope for the best.... lol ahhh my spirits are still high but Public almost seems at a lost cause.


this Miss Sarah is FULL OF CR*P and you can tell her I said so Twisted Evil

you certainly don't need all those creds - she's just saying that because she knows you don't have them and expects you to cave in and accept her lousy out in the boonies position

they always try to place the S. Africans in the rural schools - they know they are generally good teachers and will put up with a lot of nonsense.

sorry mate! hang in there tho, tell them you gotta cousin in Seoul or something and have to be there (or wherever it is you are looking to be) Wink
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

luckylady wrote:

they always try to place the S. Africans in the rural schools - they know they are generally good teachers and will put up with a lot of nonsense.


yeah, you have to be a whiny clueless 20 yr old blue-eyed american to get the best jobs in Seoul I'm afraid.

If you have any talent at all... then expect to be relegated to some inconsequential rural area.
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adamweldon



Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Dublin, Joburg, London, Limassol

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, crazy times! Ok I'll put foot down... really not interested in rural areas...

I'm pretty easy going at the moment, so not desperate for a position in a public school. Does any one know if there are many South Africans in Korea? (Obviously knowing that American and Canadians take up the majority )



JustinC wrote:


SHOULD'VE = SHOULD HAVE.

/Spelling and grammar are something to consider when teaching English. Nice that you're pretty, though.


Sorry dude, I came here for help not to be nitpicked. In future I will watch my grammar. Mainly for you though Wink
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamweldon wrote:
haha, crazy times! Ok I'll put foot down... really not interested in rural areas...

I'm pretty easy going at the moment, so not desperate for a position in a public school. Does any one know if there are many South Africans in Korea? (Obviously knowing that American and Canadians take up the majority )


yes, there are - have met a number of them - there are threads on here from time to time about S.A.s as well

Korea is actually picking up trade with S.A. more and more - have had a handful of students who traveled there and attended school while their fathers worked.
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jurassic82



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: High demand for jobs - Will I ever get a Job? Reply with quote

JustinC wrote:
adamweldon wrote:
Julius wrote:

You didn't tell us the crucial information however.

1) Nationality? If you are south african, kiwi, ozzie or Irish then you go to the back of the qeue I'm afraid. If you are british then you still are considered behind americans or canadians. Of which there are now tens of thousands flooding the market.
2) Appearance. Blonde and blue eyed will get your further, faster. Not to mention general attractiveness. Not to mention that guys are of course less in demand than women.
3) Visa eligibility. Do you have all the relevant documents up-to-date and ready?
4) Photo. You will need a decent photo, this is mega-important. Its the first thing the recruiter looks at. If you don't impress within a millisecond, then...you get thrown to the bottom of the pile.
5) Preference. If you only want to teach adults in Seoul or Busan then you will have to wait a loooong time. If you're willing to teach anywhere then you stand a much better chance.



This is a good point I should of told you

1] I hold duel citizenship to both Ireland and South Africa
2] Im a pretty tall guy 6'2"/187cm like dirty blondish brown, blue eyes not to be big headed but generally a decent looking person. (I think lol)
3] I have all the documents, I just need them certified and apostle etc.
4] good photo thats sorted.
5] I Actually don't mind what age group I teach, but I would like to be close to a major city if possible. ( I don't know if that is to much to ask for?)

What are the chances of public schools with the information provided? (Just a query)


SHOULD'VE = SHOULD HAVE.

/Spelling and grammar are something to consider when teaching English. Nice that you're pretty, though.


Wow, you are an arrogant dick. Teasing the OP when he is asking for some advice. Please keep your grammar corrections to yourself and try and help the OP instead of trying to correct his post. To the OP of this post good luck trying to find a job. If you are not set on just working at a public school then I would suggest working at one of the bigger hogwan chains like Avalon, YBM or Pagoda for a year and then apply for a public school job next year. You will already be in country and it will be a lot easier. Also, working at a hagwon will be a good way to meet a lot of people right away and you will find it much easier to adjust. I worked at Avalon for a year before my public school gig and have to say I enjoyed it lot. Worked with over a dozen other foriegners and there were always cool social events. The teaching got old though after my year was up and I was looking for better hours and vacation time so headed to a public school. Anyways, I wish you all the best in finding a job. Cool
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamweldon wrote:
haha, crazy times! Ok I'll put foot down... really not interested in rural areas...

I'm pretty easy going at the moment, so not desperate for a position in a public school. Does any one know if there are many South Africans in Korea? (Obviously knowing that American and Canadians take up the majority )


I wouldn't necessarily throw in the towel on public schools. I'd met quite a few South Africans in GEPIK. Some were in rural areas but still on the subway lines to Seoul. Another was in Bundang, a well-off suburb near Seoul. You might at least try to get the location you want and if it seems it's not going to go your way, go with the hagwons. Up to you, though.
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