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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: It's getting hot in here... Reply with quote

Rather than cook in the nude I'd prefer some a/c. I work for GEPIK and am tempted to ask the school to provide a unit for my apartment, but don't know how to go about this. My thoughts are I'll write a letter to the Principal, asking how do I get a/c in my apartment - do I install it, get the landlord to or consume some of my school's resources? In the letter I would start "I very much enjoy working in your school" and "my home life would be much more comfortable with an a/c unit. Is it up to the school, the landlord or me to get it put in? If it's me, where do I go?" I'd get it translated into Korean by my co-teachers.

I'm sure there are many problems in the way I'm considering doing it like this, but I know so little about Korean Public School politics and courtesies that I don't know where to start addressing them. I have a good relationship with my English department and students and I'm never late or sick, so I think I've a pretty good chance of a sympathetic ear. It's a big ask, possibly, but a bigger issue for me as I love coming home to a cool apartment. I tend to 'run hot' as body temperature goes (not fat, just lots of body temp) and the resulting skin problems from sweat and heat are uncomfortable, to say the least. I have trouble sleeping in a warm room and am already waking up with damp patches in the bed. So I stay up late to appreciate the cool air and I'm tired the next day.

Any tips on keeping cool, installing a/c and speaking to admin are all very welcome.
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nora



Joined: 14 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's not in the contract, you won't be getting it.

AC is expensive. 400k might get you a cheap wall unit, but then with installation and delivery, you're looking 500k minimum, probably in the 700-800k range.

Then there is the issue of the landlord. Will he let you drill holes in the wall and mount the AC unit? When you leave, will you have to pay to get it fixed up? What will the school do with the AC unit when you leave? They aren't in the used appliance business, so I doubt they want it, and the landlord will probably offer them some tiny amount to keep it.

Long story short, you can ask but it probably won't go anywhere. You can probably get a fan, but AC - good luck.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nora wrote:
If it's not in the contract, you won't be getting it.

AC is expensive. 400k might get you a cheap wall unit, but then with installation and delivery, you're looking 500k minimum, probably in the 700-800k range.

Then there is the issue of the landlord. Will he let you drill holes in the wall and mount the AC unit? When you leave, will you have to pay to get it fixed up? What will the school do with the AC unit when you leave? They aren't in the used appliance business, so I doubt they want it, and the landlord will probably offer them some tiny amount to keep it.

Long story short, you can ask but it probably won't go anywhere. You can probably get a fan, but AC - good luck.


Thanks for the reply. There are some holes in the walls, temporarily filled (with gaffer tape), that could facilitate the pipes. Around here I see many a/c units stood where mine would be no problem being installed. There's a second hand electrical place in town which has a free standing a/c unit and loads of other goods, maybe he would be the best place to go to. I'm more concerned about getting help from my school in getting a/c installed here. I've spoken to a few people in the area who had it when they moved in, and some are leaving so there could be an opportunity there for me. I just don't know how to ask my school for something that's not in the contract
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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AC is expensive. 400k might get you a cheap wall unit, but then with installation and delivery, you're looking 500k minimum, probably in the 700-800k range.

If you go buy a high end brand out at Lotte Department store sure. You can get a second hand wall unit at a second hand shop for 200k or less, under 250k installed.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nora wrote:
If it's not in the contract, you won't be getting it.

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No A/C in my last two contracts...got it both times when I asked for it.

It's not so cut and dry.

Just ask for it OP. Worst they can do is say no. Relating it to the quality of your teaching is a definite plus. Don't just bluntly blurt it out though...lead up to it.

For example:

You: "It's getting pretty hot in here isn't it?"

Co-teacher: "Yes hot.

You: "It's even warmer in my apartment."

Co-teacher: "Really?"

You: "Yes, in fact it was so warm that I couldn't sleep well. I'm worried about making good lesson plans for the students...if I'm so tired it is hard to concentrate.

(pause here for dramatic effect. Wait for Co-T to say something then mention something to the effect of getting an A/C so that you can focus more on your teaching.)

Something along those lines. Of course no guarantees it will work. If your principal and co-teachers like you, you should get it. If not or the school is particularly anal about such stuff...then at least you tried and you know where you stand. Then at the year's end when they ask you to re-sign just smile and say politely "Sorry but it is too hot there without an A/C."
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here.

I got a small unit installed (which I felt awful about as they drilled a hole in the wall) and it has been a life saver.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I didn't have an AC installed, and my school wouldn't pay for it, I'd just have it done on my own dime and let the landlord keep it at the end, so he didn't have incentive to keep any key money.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I so want to get a/c in my apartment. It's not a bad place it's just I get hot so easily. I'll try some of your ideas, thanks, and I'll tell you'all how it goes. Thanks again Smile
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Especially TUM - kudos to you !
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy a fan. You shouldn't have to pay more than 50k won for a decent sized one, and they do the job.

I've got underfloor heating that only covers half of the room so I bought an electric radiator. I bought a fan because I don't like having the AC on too often. I might turn them all on at once to see what happens
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I work for GEPIK and am tempted to ask the school to provide a unit for my apartment


GEPIK school not providing AC? Not good. If anyone is considering a public school make sure they provide AC. It's very important.
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Nismo



Joined: 31 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...so take off all your clothes.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I am generally opposed to AC because it results in a vicious cycle of worsening environmental problems (besides, the heat is really not that bad unless you're crammed in a sweaty subway), but the mosquitoes here trump that. After I close the windows, it gets stiflingly unbearable, and I guiltily activate the AC during the peak heat period.

What I do when I don't (guiltily) use AC is get a nice cross-breeze going, aided by strategically placed fans. It gets the job done quite well. If you're adamant about getting AC, I would do what others have suggested and guilt-trip your employer by subtly linking the lack of AC in your apartment to diminished job performance. The key is that it has to be subtle. It will fail if it comes across as an ultimatum.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squire wrote:
Just buy a fan. You shouldn't have to pay more than 50k won for a decent sized one, and they do the job.

I've got underfloor heating that only covers half of the room so I bought an electric radiator. I bought a fan because I don't like having the AC on too often. I might turn them all on at once to see what happens


They gave a fan - I've been using it and it creates a nice breeze but doesn't really cool me down much. I have the windows open when it's cooler outside but the warmth still holds more moisture so I'm still sweating at home.

Nismo I don't think an a/c unit is all that environmentally unfriendly, it does the same business a refrigerator but it's only on part of the day. Also I don't drive a gas-guzzling car (just a 125cc bike) and I grow herbs in the garden which must absorb some of my co2? I recycle a bit here too, using the special bags for different waste. If I get a/c it'll only be on an hour or two a day, for when I get home and it's hot. That should cool the place down enough to be comfortable the rest of the night. Or I could have it on a timer, going on 20 minutes before I'm home so I come in to a nice, cool apartment. Hmmm... sounds good.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin, tell them you need AC. They know where to get them very cheaply. These schools have plenty of money.
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radcon



Joined: 23 May 2011

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think cool thoughts. Imagine yourself at the north pole with polar bears and igloos. Should do the trick.
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