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I am scared. I was assaulted a couple months ago. Advice?
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent advice above, posting here was a good idea.

I'd like to add that these situations can happen in any country, so taking a martial arts course and a bit more care with guys you don't know well is something to consider, where ever you decide to live and work.

I used to go to Syu Yu Kai karate lessons and it was great. There was no bravado or ego-maniacs, it was 80% women wanting some self-defense and people were paired on ability and size. We didn't hit each other, only the pads the other person was holding. It was great to take out that day's frustrations on your partner's pads, and then they would do the same.

When I'd walk out of class I felt about a foot taller. I never had to use the skills I gained - partially due to the fact I'm now more confident in emotionally-charged situations and can deal with them before they get out of hand - but if I had to I could still spin and elbow an attacker while looking for a good escape route. We were also taught to put our keys between our fingers to add some extra 'oomph' to a punch and how to break free from someone strangling you (it's quite easy with the right technique). I've never had to use them but walking in a dodgy neighborhood with that knowledge and some keys in my pocket makes me feel more at ease.
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Chimie



Joined: 05 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to hear about the incident, a lot of my friends who are women always mention how safe Korea is and how they don't worry about things like this anymore. No matter where you are, there are bad people, so you always have to be careful.

--as for reporting the incident, remember this number: 02-120 it's free translation. It's not always open, but you can call them and have them translate for you if there is no one who speaks English at the police station, etc.
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kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your nationality shouldn't matter but possibly look into this...

http://8tharmy.korea.army.mil/NationalSexualAssaultCounselingCenter-English.pdf

As disturbing as this incident was and my deepest sympathies, but the reaction of your school is equally abhorrent. First take care of yourself and find support amoung the expats/friends around you.
Next, look into finding a better school. Here, and as much as I hate to admit it, usually sexual assault is looked upon as 'well, you probably deserved it' and now that your school knows, they probably have less respect for you and no sympathy. Things won't improve for you there in my opinion.
That mindset may be changing these days, but ever so slowly.

I wish you all the best~
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JulieAnne81



Joined: 05 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soulofseoul wrote:
You mean he did this right outside your front door?
Didnt neighbors hear anything?


Neighbors in Korea aren't exactly known for getting involved in fights, arguments, domestic disputes, etc., in their apartment buildings. As far as I know, the general mentality here is to leave it alone if it doesn't involve you, which is a shame.

There have been a couple big incidents in my building and I'm the only one who ever got involved and did anything about it.

I'm reminded of the woman who was murdered in Suwon recently; she managed to call for help and was on the phone with the police for a long time, and even they did nothing, and as the reporter of the article I read put it, 'neighbors thought it was just a domestic dispute between a husband and wife'. *just* 'cause apparently that's ok.
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hongdae2



Joined: 17 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

police and locals are useless in terms of domestic abuse. at 5 in the morning, an ajoshi was slamming his fist on the door below my apartment. it woke me up and i took a look at what was going on. he continued to slam on the door and finally the korean woman opened the door. as soon as she stepped out, he grabbed her head and slammed it against the concrete wall...that sick sound of bone hitting concrete...so i had 2 choices...to go down and make him understand that what he did was not acceptable or call the cops. my girlfriend at the time called the police. police came by and saw the woman with a bloodied head and the man just yells some soju influenced jibberish to the younger cops. the cops leave and the man walks away as clean as he walked in. not cool. go for the neck, groin or tear off the ear (seriously) when defending yourself from an attacker and it will give you enough time to get to a safe place and call the right people. i really hope you don't have to encounter this kind of thing again.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustinC wrote:

I used to go to Syu Yu Kai karate lessons and it was great. There was no bravado or ego-maniacs, it was 80% women wanting some self-defense and people were paired on ability and size. We didn't hit each other, only the pads the other person was holding. It was great to take out that day's frustrations on your partner's pads, and then they would do the same.


I just wanna add that if you plan on using what you learned in a real situation, go to a place that also has live sparring sessions and drills against actively resisting opponents. I don't know JustinC and his/her fighting ability but I've seen a lot of people who are way over confident because they hit some pads. Pads and bags are not real people. Being confident is one thing, but one should be careful not to be overconfident.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having dealt with a similar situation before (not me but a female friend):

If this or anything like this happens to you, call the police immediately. They take things like this very seriously and would have at least brought the man in for questioning. (In the situation I dealt with, the guy was picked up two hours later and spent time in jail.)
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komerican



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No country is absolutely safe for women and of course Korea is not an exception. People may be seduced into a sense of safety by the crowded streets and the feeling that one is not totally alone, but of course assaults and rapes do occur. It's important to lock all windows and doors, obviously, and to make sure no one is following you. Some women rent apartments on higher floors in the hope that a rapist cannot climb in through their window. It's also important to let people know where you are going. Some Korean women even send the license plate number of the taxi they are taking to a friend, for example.
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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some men are just sad and pathetic.

however, don't let this ruin your experience in korea or your trust in men in general.

화이팅!
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chrisinkorea2011



Joined: 16 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that people want to suggest weapons BUT be aware OP that weapons can easily be used against you too. like others i suggest martial arts training. I helped teach a women's self defence class in the states and half the class was women who were victims of abust, rape, assault, etc.

One of the biggest hurdles is overcoming the fear/worry/anxiety that came becauee of the incident. I hope u recover and say come to korea again if you really want to.

as far as martial arts, learn ones that teach you protection on the ground and standing. Hope everything works out for you.
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cfile2



Joined: 28 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisinkorea2011 wrote:
I understand that people want to suggest weapons BUT be aware OP that weapons can easily be used against you too. like others i suggest martial arts training. I helped teach a women's self defence class in the states and half the class was women who were victims of abust, rape, assault, etc.

One of the biggest hurdles is overcoming the fear/worry/anxiety that came becauee of the incident. I hope u recover and say come to korea again if you really want to.

as far as martial arts, learn ones that teach you protection on the ground and standing. Hope everything works out for you.


This.

The last thing you want to introduce into a sexual assault is something that can escalate it even further like a knife.

And also take into consideration how foreigners are handeld with police here.

Even if you managed to seriously bludgeon/stab/maim your attacker and stop the assault, if you end up having to deal with the police here, I think it's fair to speculate that it won't play out in your favour, particularly as a foreign woman.

Take the self-defense courses and learn how to get yourself out of that situation as safely as possible without escalating it and seek counseling to help you get through this.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most problems are solved by preventing them in the first place. Basically I wouldn't meet random strangers in taxi cabs in foreign countries.

Packing weapons and stuff in response to this event is only going to cause more trouble. Just being realistic.
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
Most problems are solved by preventing them in the first place. Basically I wouldn't meet random strangers in taxi cabs in foreign countries.



then there's lots of places you wouldn't be able to take a taxi and might even find yourself stranded, including the U.S. because there are areas across the globe where taxis are shared.

if the choice was to share or stand around, at night, in a deserted area and wait for another cab - do you seriously think someone would hesitate to share?

yeah, thought so.
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cfile2



Joined: 28 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

luckylady wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
Most problems are solved by preventing them in the first place. Basically I wouldn't meet random strangers in taxi cabs in foreign countries.



then there's lots of places you wouldn't be able to take a taxi and might even find yourself stranded, including the U.S. because there are areas across the globe where taxis are shared.

if the choice was to share or stand around, at night, in a deserted area and wait for another cab - do you seriously think someone would hesitate to share?

yeah, thought so.


Also, this didn't happen the night that she got in the taxi with the strangers. It happened after a few weeks of texting back and forth on their first date, after he had manipulated her into thinking he was a decent human being.
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eventually



Joined: 30 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
Most problems are solved by preventing them in the first place. Basically I wouldn't meet random strangers in taxi cabs in foreign countries.


that's a completely backward and gross way to look at this situation. she did NOTHING wrong.

please seek professional counseling. remember, you aren't alone and there are people who understand what you are going through. talk to them. talk to friends. what you went through was scary and you were victimized -- these things take time to work through. take care.
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