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hellofaniceguy
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The VWP does NOT automatically guarantee ones' access to the U.S.
Still some hurdles to jump....
And this is a FACT....very very few young single korean women are granted access under the VWP. I have seen it with my OWN eyes standing in a line or two over the past few years while waiting to clear U.S. customs/Immigration.....a korean female is denied entry and sent back...it happens...
Unless she has strong ties, a STABLE job, some funds....just going for a visit....can prove difficult.
You take the average k young gal....20 something...no job or has a job flipping burgers type thing....she will not be allowed...she will be turned back....a few manage to slip through the cracks still.....the U.S. state department released some numbers last month and koreans are in the top 5 for NOT returning home.....the VWP is going to be reconsidered....not only that....a number of k women have been making their way into the U.S. from Canada and Mexico and working in massage joints all over the country....a black mark....
Same with Filipinas.....very few get visas. |
Thanks, hellofaniceguy. Yeah, that's about what happened to her 10+ years ago when she first tried to visit. Before she was married and before the VWP. She was travelling Europe and thought she'd go see her friend in the US (possibly the same friend she's trying to see now in New York).
Think she had the visa but was still denied entry at the airport (not sure if I'm getting that part right or if that's possible...but at any rate, she was denied entry for lack of funds and a stable job).
She's worried that history could repeat itself. And maybe it would. She's been married over 10 years now, has been a public school teacher at least that long, but she still gets mistaken for an agashi.
What's more, she wants to bring her two children with her, but her husband won't be coming (salaryman, can't get the time off, plus it's not his friend so why bother?). Would that raise any concerns with immigration?
My other co-teacher says she's never heard of a Korean public school teacher being denied entry...but when judgments are made based on how things appear...who knows? Sucks, but I guess with those stats of Koreans being in the top 5 of non-returners, what do you expect?
Anyway, thanks again, everyone, for the replies. |
The job of Homeland security folks; ie. customs/immigration...especially customs......is to look for reasons to deny one entry.......one red flag with the man...and the traveler will get a second look with another immigration person. If your friend was denied entry 10 years ago...it IS still in the system.....
I have gone to the States with a few k teachers over the years during vacation time...both men and women and a few times both sexes were denied entry....were they pissed! One was a married 26 year old female! Another was a 54 year old male teacher. One is at the whim of the immigration person.
It's hit or miss just like with korean immigration...it depends of the mood of the customs' person at that time.
A woman tagging along a child or two traveling without her husband is sure to raise a few eyebrows! It does not matter if she has been a public school teacher for 20 years...or even a doctor.
Japanese on the other hand are regularly admitted to the U.S....especially young single women....the rate of "non return" for the Japanese is very low. Same with many European countries, the U.K., Canada and a few others.
When we are flying from korea to the U.S.....immigration/customs has 10 plus hours to check to names of all passengers...they are running background checks, Interpol, FBI, Scottland Yard, RCMP....all of them.....any dirt comes up.. they dig deeper...and then wait for you to make your way through before getting to the counter....
Next time you fly from korea....and land.....just look at some of the k women...all painted up, dressed to the nines, carrying their Gucci bags wearing big sunglasses....they get flagged for a second look...immigration already has the opinion that they are "working girls."
Hopefully your friend can get a face to face interview at the embassy to dispel any potential problems. And then again...who knows...she may breeze right on through customs!
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isitts
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
The job of Homeland security folks; ie. customs/immigration...especially customs......is to look for reasons to deny one entry.......one red flag with the man...and the traveler will get a second look with another immigration person. If your friend was denied entry 10 years ago...it IS still in the system.....
I have gone to the States with a few k teachers over the years durning vacation time...both men and women and a few times both sexes were denied entry....were they pissed! One was a married 26 year old female! Another was a 54 year old male teacher. One is at the whim of the immigration person.
It's hit or miss just like with korean immigration...it depends of the mood of the customs' person at that time.
A woman tagging along a child or two traveling without her husband is sure to raise a few eyebrows! It does not matter if she has been a public school teacher for 20 years...or even a doctor.
Japanese on the other hand are regularly admitted to the U.S....especially young single women....the rate of "non return" for the Japanese is very low. Same with many European countries, the U.K., Canada and a few others.
When we are flying from korea to the U.S.....immigration/customs has 10 plus hours to check to names of all passengers...they are running background checks, Interpol, FBI, Scottland Yard, RCMP....all of them.....any dirt comes up.. they dig deeper...and then wait for you to make your way through before getting to the counter....
Next time you fly from korea....and land.....just look at some of the k women...all painted up, dressed to the nines, carrying their Gucci bags wearing big sunglasses....they get flagged for a second look...immigration already has the opinion that they are "working girls."
Hopefully your friend can get a face to face interview at the mebassy to dispel any potential problems. And then aging...who knows...she may breeze right on through customs! |
Thanks! Incredibly helpful. She's actually decided not to bother going because of these possibilities of getting turned away. And getting visas for herself and kids will make the trip cost a little more than it's worth and is a hassle with all the paperwork.
Too bad, but those are the brakes. I, myself, have also avoided countries that are a hassle to get into. Have yet to bother trying to get into China.
Thanks, again! |
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