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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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Most problems are solved by preventing them in the first place. Basically I wouldn't meet random strangers in taxi cabs in foreign countries.
Packing weapons and stuff in response to this event is only going to cause more trouble. Just being realistic. |
Then again, this poster could be trolling...for whatever reason.
Not that long ago, a similar post ran...with somewhat the same pattern...but a fair bit cruder and almost obvious troll.
Some posters got angry that some called it a troll...as the nature of such events is quite sensitive.
Anyway, it did indeed turn out to be a troll...others may recall the thread...it was quite offensive.
If such is not the case here, then it is nice to see how caring and helpful the posters here can be in times of trouble. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
Most problems are solved by preventing them in the first place. Basically I wouldn't meet random strangers in taxi cabs in foreign countries.
Packing weapons and stuff in response to this event is only going to cause more trouble. Just being realistic. |
Then again, this poster could be trolling...for whatever reason.
Not that long ago, a similar post ran...with somewhat the same pattern...but a fair bit cruder and almost obvious troll.
Some posters got angry that some called it a troll...as the nature of such events is quite sensitive.
Anyway, it did indeed turn out to be a troll...others may recall the thread...it was quite offensive.
If such is not the case here, then it is nice to see how caring and helpful the posters here can be in times of trouble. |
^I couldn't agree more with The Cosmic Hum because I've seen a very similar post on Dave's before. If this kind of horrible crime had ever happened to me (of course i wouldn't get into a relationship with a stranger that i met in a cab in the first place), I would have done everything that I could possibly do to bring the perpetrator to justice and ruin his life forever instead of making a story on an internet discussion forum. Although the Korean police is not perfect they would definitely arrest the man and put him in prison especially when the victim knows who the offender is. The police is quite serious about sexual assaults these days. Oh well the internet discussion boards are the biggest magnets for all sorts of weirdos. and Dave's is not an exception. |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Then again, this poster could be trolling...for whatever reason.
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I also believe this is a strong possibility especially since the OP hasn't returned.
whatever, all the same, maybe someone will carry some good info away from this discussion in any event. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Then again, this poster could be trolling...for whatever reason.
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I also believe this is a strong possibility especially since the OP hasn't returned.
whatever, all the same, maybe someone will carry some good info away from this discussion in any event. |
it's also a possibility that this thread is his (the OP's) response to "white women/Korean men" thread. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| No country is absolutely safe for women and of course Korea is not an exception. People may be seduced into a sense of safety by the crowded streets and the feeling that one is not totally alone, but of course assaults and rapes do occur. It's important to lock all windows and doors, obviously, and to make sure no one is following you. Some women rent apartments on higher floors in the hope that a rapist cannot climb in through their window. It's also important to let people know where you are going. Some Korean women even send the license plate number of the taxi they are taking to a friend, for example. |
Agreed. Best defense is a great offense; said someone once. |
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sml7285
Joined: 26 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| luckylady wrote: |
| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Then again, this poster could be trolling...for whatever reason.
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I also believe this is a strong possibility especially since the OP hasn't returned.
whatever, all the same, maybe someone will carry some good info away from this discussion in any event. |
This is the feeling I got when I first read the thread. I've had friends who were victims of sexual assault and they could barely open up to anyone, much less a forum-full of random people.
That being said, what I've learned from talking to friends of the female persuasion is that a can of mace and a rape whistle is a much greater deterrent than learning martial arts, as a female who is somewhat experienced in martial arts can still often be overpowered by bigger men. |
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waterflower
Joined: 30 May 2012
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to respond and thank everyone who has given me support and words of encouragement, many thanks. I have spoken with some of my friends, back home in Canada as well as when I was in Korea. They were very wonderful to have to provide a listening ear and supportive words.
I would like to say that I am definitely NOT a troll. It took a lot of guts to post my situation online, because I know that there are many of you who have been in Korea quite a while, and I thought that maybe some of you could give me some helpful feedback.
As I mentioned in my initial post, I did try to go to the police - several times in fact. I asked my school the day after the incident if I could leave early to go speak with the police. They refused. I didn't even have any classes at that time, for goodness sake. I was done teaching at 4, but they told me I must stay until the end of my shift.
I spoke with my Korean coteacher about it. She was a darling and went to the Korean police herself, because she had slightly different hours than I did and was able to tell them about it in Korean. They told her to advise me to go to a specific larger police office that dealt with foreigners, however they were CLOSED on the weekend when I tried to go. My work hours prevented me from going to this larger office during the week.
Now looking back on the situation, I wish I had never gone out with that guy. However, how was I to know he would assault me? Someone mentioned not getting into a cab with a stranger. Obviously that is not something I did on purpose. I saw the cab driver outside of the cab and asked to go to my neighborhood. It wasn't until I got into the front seat that I saw the other people in the back. The guy seemed like a nice guy, and it wasn't until after texting back and forth for about 3 weeks I actually went on a date with him. Even then I tried to be smart and told him I could get home on my own and didn't want him accompanying me home.
Anyway, I feel like I shouldn't have to defend my actions. No girl should have to think that a guy is going to attack her on a first date. I tried my best to use good judgement, and it didn't turn out well. I don't think I did anything wrong, though.
I just wanted to clarify some things and say that I have better things to do than create made up scenarios. I am really appreciative to the kind men and women who have given me positive words and advice. |
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thunderbird
Joined: 18 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| sorry 2 sound dumb but i still dont get it r u talking bout a physical or sexual asault? |
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eventually
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:45 am Post subject: |
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waterflower, you didn't do anything wrong. anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. what, are we NEVER supposed to date? are we only supposed to date people we already know? well, how do we get to know them if we don't ever meet them first? and guess what, everyone is a stranger before you meet them!
seriously, people here need to stop placing blame in any way on this girl whose only mistake was not being able to read some sociopath's goddamn mind. |
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waterflower
Joined: 30 May 2012
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| Moondoggy wrote: |
| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
Most problems are solved by preventing them in the first place. Basically I wouldn't meet random strangers in taxi cabs in foreign countries.
Packing weapons and stuff in response to this event is only going to cause more trouble. Just being realistic. |
Then again, this poster could be trolling...for whatever reason.
Not that long ago, a similar post ran...with somewhat the same pattern...but a fair bit cruder and almost obvious troll.
Some posters got angry that some called it a troll...as the nature of such events is quite sensitive.
Anyway, it did indeed turn out to be a troll...others may recall the thread...it was quite offensive.
If such is not the case here, then it is nice to see how caring and helpful the posters here can be in times of trouble. |
^I couldn't agree more with The Cosmic Hum because I've seen a very similar post on Dave's before. If this kind of horrible crime had ever happened to me (of course i wouldn't get into a relationship with a stranger that i met in a cab in the first place), I would have done everything that I could possibly do to bring the perpetrator to justice and ruin his life forever instead of making a story on an internet discussion forum. Although the Korean police is not perfect they would definitely arrest the man and put him in prison especially when the victim knows who the offender is. The police is quite serious about sexual assaults these days. Oh well the internet discussion boards are the biggest magnets for all sorts of weirdos. and Dave's is not an exception. |
Wow, Moondoggy. I found your response the most upsetting. It is difficult for you to say how you would react to a situation like that because you have (probably) NEVER experienced sexual assault. Hopefully you never do.
I had always wondered when I heard about women being raped/assaulted "Why didn't they go to the police? Or say anything?" When it happens to you, you are in a state of shock, embarrassment, and violation. I did realize that I was experiencing these emotions, but I KNEW I had to say something. TRY SOMETHING to get justice. My school didn't help. The local police centre just told me to go to another station, which was closed.
My Korean friend told me that the police wouldn't take me seriously anyway, since I'm a Western woman and it was a Korean man. If it had been the other way around I think that a little more may have been done. They said I didn't have any proof, because my apartment building had CCTV on the inside of the apartment, but not the outside. Without this, it would be a "he said, she said" case and most likely they would side with the Korean.
It's very difficult for a girl when you are away from your family and in a foreign country and you have the feeling that no matter what was done to you, the Korean police wouldn't take you seriously anyway because of my gender and race (most likely).
I am completely offended by what you said about me, and I can tell you that I have plenty of things better to do than make up a ridiculous story on the Internet. As a victim of sexual assault, I realize completely that this is nothing to make up or joke about. I am not a "weirdo". I am a victim. Learn the difference. Your way of looking at this situation is either very cynical, hateful, or twisted. Most people were quite understanding and supportive.
Shame on you. Hope you never have to experience what I DID HAVE TO EXPERIENCE. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| i'm really sorry to read what happened to you. and even more sorry to hear how your school and the police were not helpful. if i were you i would hire a PI to find out 1.if he is married, and 2.where he works. then i'd inform his family and job of what he did. if he's married make sure to leave your email with his wife as she may be fed up with him and cheating is illegal in korea and if she wanted to press charges and you were to testify(even if you couldn't prove assault) he could end up in prison that way or at least get really screwed over in a divorce. good luck. |
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