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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
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 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Zack...I figure this is just another way for you to get this thread locked or deleted.
Short of making an intelligent conversation, this is the second thread were you reverted to insults and name calling.
The last thread got locked because of it.
I am not the only one noticing your immature antics.
Before this thread gets locked or deleted...lets remove those posts...ok?
Last edited by The Cosmic Hum on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:40 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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cough cough...keep going.
From the top of page 9 and down.
I've done the same. |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:59 am Post subject: |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| Junior wrote: |
Sure, evolutionism is a widespread myth...but then again so is the tooth fairy, and God.
Good day to you gentlemen. |
Since you are attempting honesty...might as well go the last step...yes?
And in the light of this honesty...thought your post required a minor edit...surely you won't object...in the light of honesty and all. |
Are you trading a troll for a troll now? |
hmm...good question.
Seems like just participating in this thread is trollish territory.
But yes...expecting Junior to concede the point was a troll...I don't think he has the ability to change his stance on this issue.
The message itself was not a troll. |
Are you too stupid to recognize your mistake or too cowardly to admit to it? Or are you still just trolling? |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| I don't deny that the bible could be interpreted to conform to what we observe in nature. |
...or rather, science inevitably comes to conform to the bible.
The massive fossil deposits testify to a global flood, the creation of fully formed creatures is reflected in the cambrian- where virtually all classes and phyla of complex organisms suddenly appear, fully formed with no precursors. The chances of even a single cell falling into place accidentally are so infinitessimally small, and the building blocks of life cannot simply form and aggregate into living creatures. Real science is based on probabilities, not mind boggling improbabilities.
This is entirely as the bible predicts, and the opposite of what darwin thought.
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| I deny that the evidence points to anything like the 6000 year old, dinosaur-man-love Earth you believe we live on and for which you have no evidence short of your interpretation of the bible. |
There really isn't much ambiguity in the description of every living thing being created in 6 days.
Evidence and records of human civilisation do not go back further than 5000 years. Yet you pretend we have been around for multimillions of years because it suits your made-up fantasy. I think i'll take the real-world evidence over your imagination thanks.
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| What you've got are a few mistakes - something no one is denying scientists make, and often the fault of cheap textbook printers anyway - blown completely out of proportion to suit your creationist agenda |
No. What we have is the majority of the western population being consistently decieved over time by false or misleading information in textbooks, right up to articles in the popular media..over decades. In some cases these "mistakes" finally get a tiny disclaimer in small print on the back page months or years later, in most cases they don't.. and are left to "accidentally" propogate more widespread acceptance. Usually they are simply republished.
This is nothing remarkable or noteworthy. north Korea has operated in the same way for decades, so have various civilisations and cultures since time immemorial. Deliberate misinformation for political gain has been the rule for most of human history, not the rare exception.
| Recessiontime wrote: |
Surely there are incredibly powerful people behind this conspiracy.
You have projected the word conspiracy-with all its modern connotations- onto me. I never mentioned it however. |
The simple fact is that... like-minded humans -subconsciously or not- act to protect the interests of their group against others. Its just the way people are. They network, they organise themselves into social groupings with arbitrary badges of identity, be it football supporters or scientists, and hold their ground.
No political party, ethnicity, academic group, or belief system ever voluntarily negociated itself out of power and actively committed suicide.
Evolutionists and scientists have been hand-picked and inducted into academia and enjoy wealth, a living and prestige based on their sympathy to or at least tacit approval of evolutionism. They are inclined to overlook minor flaws or ignore conflicting evidence to maintain their livelihoods and careers. The infrastructure of government in North korea have been installed by the same method- based on proven loyalty to the party.
That is if they ever get to deal with such evidence relating to evolutionism in the first place. Most scientists are not palaeontologists, neither do their fields of speciality deal with evolution. It is simply a doctrine that the scientific community has been taught to give the nod to.
In the US you can criticise the president, but you can't criticise darwin. To break this taboo results in ridicule, loss of career, pariah status, social stigmatism. All the world's a stage, the system of this fallen world rewards the corrupt.
Science in theory should be self-correcting. In practise, evolutionism is a dogma that seeks to eliminate all criticism, all opposition, by fair means or foul. Hence the bitter, angry and emotional scenes that accompany the creation-evolution debate. People are spiritual beings, not all of our behaviour can be explained logically. The brain attempts to justify the bias of the heart. If I came out with a scientific theory that legitimised and justified eating ice cream, it would obviously gain widespread popularity and acceptance- simply because it is in line with what people already want to do.
Evolutionism has no scientific credibility but it strikes a chord with humans who are already engaged in rebellion against their creator, who want to live their lives their own way.. without reference or accountability to God. Evolutionism provides the excuse they are looking for, and they quickly accept it without any desire to delve deeper. |
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falco
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Wow. Just....wow.
I really, really, REALLY want to try whatever it is your smoking over there on your cloud, Junior. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
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| Junior, if evolution has no credible evidence to back it why is it taught in colleges and universities in all areas of the sciences? |
Because secular humanists finally managed to take over. They overran the tower, they secured the drawbridge. They commandeered the academic heirarchy and educational establishments and subordinated them to their agenda. Their aims are no different to the communists and soviets who tried to extinguish christianity, the romans, and other civilisations throughout history. They want to remove God from the picture and keep the power for themselves. They encourage a worldview in which humans are not made in the image of God but apes, in which there lives have no meaning beyond base biological drives, and there is no possibility of reconciliation with their creator. They have created new Gods: pop stars and popular culture..with a new religion, evolutionism, that enables people to ignore God. It reduces people to being slaves of their fallen natures, easily controlled and manipulated. Easily occupied with the latest meaningless tripe in the media. Easily misinformed by a mass media.
This is the situation today. Darwinists begin by imposing a narrow interpretation on the evidence and declaring it the only way to do science. Critics are then labelled "unscientific", their articles are rejected by mainstream journals, whose editorial boards are dominated by dogmatists; the critics are denied funding by goverment agencies, who send grant proposals to the dogmatists for "peer" review; and eventually the critics are hounded out of the scientific community altogether.
In the process, evidence against the Darwinian worldview simply disappears, like witnesses against the mob. or it is buried in specialized publications, where only dedicated researchers can find it. Once the counter evidence has been buried and silenced, the dogmatists announce that there is "no debate" about their theory.
Using these kinds of tactics, darwinists have managed to establish a monopoly over research grants, faculty appointments, and peer-reviewed journals.
But the high priests of the ape-cult want to keep hold on power and their place in society. They head a vast empire, they are not going to voluntarily go down for the sake of something as minor and irrelevant as the truth. I don't see the Kim's relinquishing their family business to the north of us either. Its called human greed and corruption. |
junior, i've read through most of this thread and find your critique of the cult of darwinism fascinating. but the one thing i can't wrap my mind around is even if your critique is accurate, how does it necessarily follow that we should revert back to the "genesis explanation"? i have no doubt that in a few hundred years time(maybe sooner) the theory of evolution will be encompassed by an even greater explanation that takes evolution into account and explains even more. much the same way einstein encompasses newton. it's not either/or...
In a journal entry made in 1844, Kierkegaard wrote: if hegel had written the whole of his logic and then said that it was merely an experiment in thought then he would certainly have been the greatest thinker who has ever lived. as it is, he is merely comic. |
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