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Are Koreans Getting Fatter?
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geldedgoat



Joined: 05 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ever met a Korean who would drink (to get drunk) without having a full meal in front of him? Yeah, me neither. My money's on the 안주.
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Dodge7



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geldedgoat wrote:
Ever met a Korean who would drink (to get drunk) without having a full meal in front of him? Yeah, me neither. My money's on the 안주.

I think its the anju too, and the high carb diet with a growing sedentary lifestyle sitting in front of the computer and at their desks at school/work.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

happiness wrote:
yes, they are. i was first here in 96 and the only people in TGIF were g.i.s and a few k-families.

i was in costco for the first time yesterday (i know i know) and good lord, they were buying up them big pizzas, calzones, and sucking down those 1000/2000 coffees. make no mistake: young and younger Korean families like the American way.


To a certain extent, although I'm not seeing anywhere near the fatness here than you see in the Middle East, the UK or the States. There isn't (yet) a Starbucks on every corner here, and McDonald's are pretty rare. I think the Koreans have a good hand on not allowing too many fast foods into the country (feel free to disagree, though) and still do move about a fair bit.


happiness wrote:
The influence America has had on Korea is immense, but that was to be seen.
Now, Im not sure we want to get rid of those confucian norms. They do have alot of good benefits keepin the locals in line. hmmm


Pun intended?
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fast food is everywhere in Korea. All those carts selling ddukbokki and fried stuff and dumplings. That's not exactly Jenny Craig there. And there certainly doesn't seem to be much regulation.
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Jyang486



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it's really a culture change. parents almost always cooked for their kids, controlling how much they ate and what they ate. white rice, and a lot of it, was always in the diet so you can't blame that. now, a lot of the parents grew up not learning how to cook, studying/working all the time, or find it too much of a hassle to cook so they eat out more. single people have more of a problem with this i find. with the increased costs of grocery shopping, it's said that it's almost as cheap to eat out as it is to cook for yourself. so if you find it a hassle to cook for yourself, why not just order delivery when you don't have to tip?

also, before, kids and parents walked around a lot more as well, several kilometers everyday. now, most people have cars, unlike before. if you don't, then you are probably poor, and people who are poor will probably buy cars as to not appear poor. another issue i find is how people will sign up for long term contracts at the gym to save money, but go only a few times. this happens back in the States as well, but when people do go to the gym to exercise it's usually to do exercises that are boring as hell and goes on seemingly forever. So they are less apt to go again unless they are extremely dedicated/disciplined.

so to sum up my rambles that went all over the place, combine poor diets and lack of exercise, add in the drinking/eating very late culture, and you get the increased number of fat people you see today, imo.
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jyang486 wrote:
i think it's really a culture change. parents almost always cooked for their kids, controlling how much they ate and what they ate. white rice, and a lot of it, was always in the diet so you can't blame that. now, a lot of the parents grew up not learning how to cook, studying/working all the time, or find it too much of a hassle to cook so they eat out more. single people have more of a problem with this i find. with the increased costs of grocery shopping, it's said that it's almost as cheap to eat out as it is to cook for yourself. so if you find it a hassle to cook for yourself, why not just order delivery when you don't have to tip?

also, before, kids and parents walked around a lot more as well, several kilometers everyday. now, most people have cars, unlike before. if you don't, then you are probably poor, and people who are poor will probably buy cars as to not appear poor. another issue i find is how people will sign up for long term contracts at the gym to save money, but go only a few times. this happens back in the States as well, but when people do go to the gym to exercise it's usually to do exercises that are boring as hell and goes on seemingly forever. So they are less apt to go again unless they are extremely dedicated/disciplined.

so to sum up my rambles that went all over the place, combine poor diets and lack of exercise, add in the drinking/eating very late culture, and you get the increased number of fat people you see today, imo.


I actually think it's the lack of culture change that's the issue along with the incorporation of western fast food. Korean food isn't as wonderfully healthy as people like to claim, but people weren't fat because they ate small portions due to the lack of food. Culturally, Koreans like to eat a lot. There's a saying 먹는게 남는거다. They ate because they didn't know when the next meal was going to be. But now they can afford to gorge themselves, and they do. Coupled with the sedentary lifestyle, it's only going to get worse.

But there's also a positive western influence. More people are concerned with how their body looks. I think we're going to see more fat people along with jacked people.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jyang486 wrote:
now, a lot of the parents grew up not learning how to cook.


Yep, good observation.

They'll get the exact same result in KR that people got in the US if they follow the same path; women stop cooking, McD, KFC, processed foods, TV, car, elevator, office, etc. It's not rocket science.

But KR is still in a mostly healthy stage of existence. They have health wisdom passed down from their parents and they mostly still follow that.

If we see a shift that puts the omma/appa restaurants out of business in favor of corporate processed trash food, then it's game over. But hopefully they have learned from watching other nation�s failures not to do that. The adjumas and their tasty cooking are keeping the dream alive. Very Happy
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No_hite_pls



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Koreans get richer they will get fatter.
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marsavalanche wrote:
sadguy wrote:
because it's illegal to be fat in japan. i'm not even joking either. google it.


Oh yes... I remember seeing something like a "fat tax" referenced in cracked once but never read up on it.

America should adopt that. They already do it with airliners which is a great idea.


And we all need an extra subway fare for fatties!! Nothing worse than when you're in a seat and a "big one" tries to sit next to you, half of their blubber engulfing you.

Or when they're in a seat and the empty one next to them can't be sat it becuase half of them is pouring into it.

You want two seats? Pay twice the fare!
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SonomaJoe



Joined: 10 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gained weight, about ten pounds, since getting here a few months ago. Most of that is due to the fact that there is no gym where I am (or if there is I can't find it on Google and my co-teachers don't know either) and I've been sick almost continuously with tonsilitis or norovirus. I hope I get to the point where Korea stops trying to kill me with various diseases. It's bad for my figure!

This is especially true when I have no idea what I'm eating half the time. I eat a lot of mandu and I have no idea if that is or isn't good for me. I am guessing the fresh kind they sell down the street out of steamers is better than the frozen. Sometimes at school I think I eat too much rice...but part of that is me being polite.

That having been said, I was shocked by the amount of donuts and fast food here...I had heard so much about Asian food being light. I try to say no to the bean pastries but it's hard. Any bread they sell is white so I'm sure that's not helping. I'm trying to cram in as many vegetables as possible.

Quite frankly I'm amazed Korea doesn't have more fat people due to the humidity. Who wants to exercise in this muck? I don't and I'm used to constant exercise.
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Otus



Joined: 09 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From someone who has lost about 45kg over the last 16 months here - my thoughts ...

1. The white rice now has way too much sugar content and easily brings about weight gain (amongst other problems) - More in caucasians for some reason, but I think it's starting to take a toll on Koreans. Cutting it out whenever I could (not easy) made a big difference.

2. Someone mentioned about Japan. Every time I've been to Japan I would be hungry after meals. The Japanese diet seems much more controlled.

It's all in the food - in the larger amounts being eaten and the incredible increase in sugar content and fatty food. Not possible for most people to do anything like enough exercise to compensate for that - altho' I see alot of K's trying with the exercise these days - it's just not helping them.

U gotta stop eating ... !
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BobbyOrr



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My students get one hour a week of gym and only 20 minutes a day of recess (that's if they don't have to stay in to finish work). After-school is hagwon time. They are insanely under-recreated.

I've talked to parents and they feel a real guilt about all the hagwons. I think part of this guilt manifests itself in not saying no to their kids about junk food.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans are getting fatter but they are also getting taller, better muscled, and better looking.
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comm



Joined: 22 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BobbyOrr wrote:
My students get one hour a week of gym and only 20 minutes a day of recess (that's if they don't have to stay in to finish work). After-school is hagwon time. They are insanely under-recreated.

I've talked to parents and they feel a real guilt about all the hagwons. I think part of this guilt manifests itself in not saying no to their kids about junk food.

Once the current crop of grandparents are gone, I suspect many home-cooked meals will be gone with them. Combine that with the increasing availability of junkfood and the above, and Korea may be facing some tragic waistlines in the near future...
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