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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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i saw that. that said, ive been here for 12 years and Ive never been threatened. ive been sneered at, but i sneer back. meh, so what.
IF there were attacks on foreigners, THAT would be different. But I seriously doubt that. The locals are far too placid...
whatever, right? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| happiness wrote: |
i saw that. that said, ive been here for 12 years and Ive never been threatened. ive been sneered at, but i sneer back. meh, so what.
IF there were attacks on foreigners, THAT would be different. But I seriously doubt that. The locals are far too placid...
whatever, right? |
I think the OP is blowing this out-of-proportion, but some local Koreans are treating anti-discrimination legislation as a threat to them. I don't feel threatened in this country. On the contrary. I'm treated well in most cases. |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
I think the OP is blowing this out-of-proportion, |
How? |
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premiummince
Joined: 23 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:25 am Post subject: |
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I've been targeted by some group. I have no idea which up to this day.
They sent a package of trash to my work. They sent a letter to my work. I changed jobs, they sent a letter to them also. It was all just bull*. My work took one look at it and said, "That's not him."
I was pretty paranoid, but I never blamed Korea or Koreans.
So guys, they are out there. But don't paint all with the same brush. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:12 am Post subject: Re: Anti-foreigner groups on rise |
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When ...the UK or the EU opens the doors to unlimited immigration without restrictions for poor, illiterate, migrant workers and economic refugees then I will jump on your bandwagon. |
..far as I can tell, they've been doing exactly that for the past two decades. London and Paris are now basically suburbs of Marakesh and Tunis. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:03 am Post subject: Re: . |
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| Enrico Palazzo wrote: |
And you just stated that Koreans have rocks for membranes. That's a clear TOS violation... |
Not that I agree with much of what John Junior says (his day to day experience is certainly vastly different to mine, but then I'm not him so I'm not going to make any other comment on it either way), he didn't do what you claim above. He was talking about people who claimed Korea was a developed country, not Koreans themselves. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Los Angeloser wrote: |
| Adventurer wrote: |
I think the OP is blowing this out-of-proportion, |
How? |
Visible xenophobia is not a huge thing in Korea. I don't really experience it beyond some idiots telling you to be quiet because you're speaking in English. I've never been bothered by anyone. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: . |
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| John Junior wrote: |
| They simply can not and will not accept cultural diversity, that is was makes Australia a great country. |
LOL! Australians accept cultural diversity, hmmm? LOL! |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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One of a my students is a top exec and we had a conversation about the problems of North Korea.
Exec - Korean people believe that they are special because they are one people, many years ago old father put a lion and a bear to protect the garlic. The lion had no patience and left, but the bear was able to..... that bear then became the Korean people and we are strong because we came from a bear and special because you are one people.
Me - do you believe that?
Exec - No I don't but it's a part of our culture and some people still do.
It was on that day I accepted that Korean history and folklore is designed to make Korean's feel superior to waygooks, get used to it. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: . |
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There are no antiforeigner groups in Australia, |
Utter nonsense. There are anti-foreigner/immigration groups in just about every country INCLUDING Australia.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-06-11/65000-sign-on-to-anti-immigrant-facebook-group/1711230
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After recent attacks on Indian students in Melbourne and Sydney, one Facebook group - which says Australia is "full" and urges immigrants to "learn the language" or enjoy their "right to leave"- has attracted nearly 64,500 members.
One poster calls on Australians to stand against "curry munching idiots", saying the attacks on the students may have been "frustration driven, due to their foolish traits and culture".
"We request you to please unite and stand against the recent protests by Indians ... drive all the immigrants out and make Australia clean," he said.
"We have our unique Aussie culture, we drink beer, we eat meat, pork and beef. If you can't bear with that, please leave." |
And just for comparison.
Korea=about 50 million
Australia=about 23 million.
One Korean anti-foreigner group attracted just over 6000 members
One Australian anti-foreigner group attracted nearly 65000 members
Do the math. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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Korea has a tiny amount of racial diversity the vast majority of 'foreignes' being ethnic Koreans from China.
Comparing Korea to countries like Australia/US/UK etc with non-white communities measured in percentage points in double figures is not a useful comparison.
I would be more interested in hearing how workers from SE Asia and the subcontinent find life in Korea. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| aq8knyus wrote: |
Korea has a tiny amount of racial diversity the vast majority of 'foreignes' being ethnic Koreans from China.
Comparing Korea to countries like Australia/US/UK etc with non-white communities measured in percentage points in double figures is not a useful comparison.
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Perhaps. However the main thrust of my point was not to make a comparison but to simply to point out that the claim that Australia has no anti-foreigner groups is false...pure and simple.
And since it was the OP who FIRST compared the two countries by making said false claim I merely showed what the conclusion based on facts as reported in the media would be. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| aq8knyus wrote: |
Korea has a tiny amount of racial diversity the vast majority of 'foreignes' being ethnic Koreans from China.
Comparing Korea to countries like Australia/US/UK etc with non-white communities measured in percentage points in double figures is not a useful comparison.
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Perhaps. However the main thrust of my point was not to make a comparison but to simply to point out that the claim that Australia has no anti-foreigner groups is false...pure and simple.
And since it was the OP who FIRST compared the two countries by making said false claim I merely showed what the conclusion based on facts as reported in the media would be. |
It seemed laughable to say that Australia has no hate groups. It has plenty as far as I know, and it had some one nation party before, I believe led by Hansen. That wasn't exactly an enlightened party. Australia might have more diversity and many might celebrate it more openly than they do in Korea as I see no celebration of it, but there is tons of hostility to certain immigrants. |
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John Junior
Joined: 31 Jan 2012
Location: Somewhere
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: . |
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| crescent wrote: |
| John Junior wrote: |
| They simply can not and will not accept cultural diversity, that is was makes Australia a great country. |
LOL! Australians accept cultural diversity, hmmm? LOL! |
Okay I am from Melbourne and Melbourne can be as racist as anywhere else in Australia, but Queensland takes the racist cake prize. I was merely stating initially that Korea is mono-cultural and still treats foreigners, caucasians, and South East Asians vastly differently to Korean nationals.
Just for the record. I live in a shitty cesspool area in Geyonggido full of narrowminded rednecks. Once I was abused and threated to be beaten up by a drunk ajossi on a bus and no one said a thing. Until very loudly using expletives I would KO him if he didn't back off. This was after he claimed he wanted to take me on when I got off at the bus stop. I do not understand Korean but any man understands when a fight is going to take place, right?
Then I won't mention the micro-aggressive sneers I get all the time and the ''watch your back'' feeling that someone is standing behind you.
Kangnam: Some Korean f*ck yelled ''Weigookin'' while I was ascending the subway steps at kangnam station exit ten. I did not understand the rest of his words but he swore at me in Korean, very loudly to attract the attention of onlookers.
Australia does have anti foreigner groups but that was the fault of Pauline Hanson and John Howards ever liberal and blase indifference to racist policies. (That is about 6 years ago now though)
And it did not occur to me there was an active anti-immigration group in 2012 in Australia. I have been in S.K for a few months.
Yes I know Indian students have been beaten up or killed, but that has quietened down now right? And isn't New York or L.A just as bad? Try Sydney too. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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@TheUrbanmyth
Yeah but the only reason I posted was because whenever there is a thread that discusses this topic its always referred back to the US or another English speaking country.
I merely wanted to point out how redundant that was and how discrimination in Korea can only discussed within its own context. |
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